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From: jw schultz <jw@pegasys.ws>
To: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: DE and hot-swap disk caddies
Date: Wed, 27 Mar 2002 14:34:27 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20020327143427.N6223@pegasys.ws> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <200203252316.g2PNGD011116@numbat.Os2.Ami.Com.Au> <01c501c1d4874ce9180e0aa8c0@bridge> <20020326002128.L6223@pegasys.ws> <20020326190117.B324@toy.ucw.cz>

On Tue, Mar 26, 2002 at 07:01:18PM +0000, Pavel Machek wrote:
> Hi!
> 
> > > > > Linux doesn't support IDE hot swap at the drive level. Its basically
> > > > > waiting people to want it enough to either fund it or go write the code
> > > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > What needs to be done? How extensive is the surgery needed?
> > > 
> > 
> > IDE isn't really meant to allow hot swap but it can be done.
> > 
> > As Jeremy says, electrically it is difficult to do it with a
> > master+slave on one cable because you really must power down
> > the interface (cable) and that would mean downing both devices.
> 
> But that's not a problem most times, right? Downing device on same
> channel for 10 second it takes to plug it in should not be a problem.
> 								Pavel

Sure, just be sure you POWER down the device(s) and the
interface.  IDE is no more designed to be hot-swap than the
ISA buss.  It was originally a buss level emulation of a
specific Western Digital controller for ST506 drives.  Talk
to an EE familiar with the spec and implementations and make
sure that your card can either power down or go buffered
tristate.  Smoking can be hazardous to your computer's
health.

Disclaimer: I am not an Electronics Engineer, nor an expert
on IDE/ATA/ATAPI yadda, yadda, yadda.  I wrote because this
thread, while useful for the future  was on a tangent that
wasn't telling John Summerfield how he might actually do
what he wants, today.

-- 
________________________________________________________________
	J.W. Schultz            Pegasystems Technologies
	email address:		jw@pegasys.ws

		Remember Cernan and Schmitt

  reply	other threads:[~2002-03-27 22:34 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 51+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2002-03-25  9:32 IDE and hot-swap disk caddies John Summerfield
2002-03-25 15:56 ` Alan Cox
2002-03-25 19:34   ` Bill Davidsen
2002-03-25 19:55     ` Alan Cox
2002-03-25 20:26       ` Wakko Warner
2002-03-25 21:20         ` Andre Hedrick
2002-03-25 22:32           ` Wakko Warner
2002-03-26  0:11             ` Thunder from the hill
2002-03-26 18:52           ` Pavel Machek
2002-03-27 22:38             ` Alan Cox
2002-03-27 22:29               ` Pavel Machek
2002-03-27 22:47                 ` Pedro M. Rodrigues
2002-03-27 23:21                   ` Jos Hulzink
2002-03-28 11:37                   ` Jos Hulzink
2002-03-27 22:51                 ` Alan Cox
2002-03-28  0:01                   ` Itai Nahshon
2002-03-28  0:11                     ` Andre Hedrick
2002-03-27 23:53                 ` Vojtech Pavlik
2002-03-25 23:16   ` John Summerfield
2002-03-26  3:32     ` Mark Lord
2002-03-26  5:28     ` Jeremy Jackson
2002-03-26  8:21       ` DE " jw schultz
2002-03-26 19:01         ` Pavel Machek
2002-03-27 22:34           ` jw schultz [this message]
2002-03-27 23:17             ` Jos Hulzink
2002-03-27 23:57               ` Andre Hedrick
2002-03-28  0:17                 ` Erik Andersen
2002-03-28  0:23                   ` Andre Hedrick
2002-03-28  0:31                     ` Benjamin LaHaise
2002-03-28  0:40                       ` Andre Hedrick
2002-03-28  2:02                         ` IDE " Jeremy Jackson
2002-03-28  9:33                           ` Alan Cox
2002-03-28  9:28                             ` Simon Richter
2002-03-28 16:25                             ` Jeremy Jackson
2002-03-28  9:33                       ` DE " Jos Hulzink
2002-03-28  0:37                   ` Alan Cox
2002-03-28  0:27                     ` Andre Hedrick
2002-03-28  4:24                       ` Chuck Campbell
2002-03-28  4:32                         ` Andre Hedrick
2002-03-28  8:00                     ` Martin Dalecki
2002-03-28  8:21                       ` Andre Hedrick
2002-03-28  9:01                         ` Martin Dalecki
2002-03-28  9:39                       ` Alan Cox
2002-03-28  9:50                         ` Offtopic: " Jos Hulzink
2002-03-28  9:53                           ` Martin Dalecki
2002-03-28 18:31                           ` Herman Oosthuysen
2002-03-28  9:29                   ` Jos Hulzink
2002-03-26 22:53       ` IDE " John Summerfield
2002-03-28 16:46         ` Bill Davidsen
2002-03-28 18:10           ` Mark Lord
2002-03-28 20:59             ` John Summerfield

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