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From: Jos Hulzink <josh@stack.nl>
To: Alan Cox <alan@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk>
Cc: Martin Dalecki <dalecki@evision-ventures.com>,
	<andersen@codepoet.org>, Andre Hedrick <andre@linux-ide.org>,
	jw schultz <jw@pegasys.ws>,
	Linux Kernel Development <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Offtopic: Re: DE and hot-swap disk caddies
Date: Thu, 28 Mar 2002 10:50:09 +0100 (CET)	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20020328103854.O5099-100000@toad.stack.nl> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <E16qWNt-0007Ij-00@the-village.bc.nu>


On Thu, 28 Mar 2002, Alan Cox wrote:

> > Then there is this talking around about the "tristate of some" device.
> > I'm really a bit sick of it. Becouse there is no such a state
> > like a tri-state. We have just bus drivers on both ends.
> > They are implemented usually as Schmidt triggers. They have three
> > possible states on output: low voltage, high voltage, high resistance.
>
> Which is one, two, three states -> tri-state.

Eeks, a Linux developper who can count ;-)

> Electronics terminology then abuses that to mean the high impedance state (not
> high resistance please if we are going to be picky).

Correct, though I hope in most cases the impedance is almost equal to the
resistance, otherwise there would be problems at the current high speeds.

For those who don't know the difference:

Resistance is only a part of impedance. Inpedance also contains a
frequency-dependant part, caused by induction in, and capacity between
wires and electronic devices.

The idea in formula:

Induction = 	Resistance +
		frequency * Induction +
		1 / (frequency * Capacity)

For an accurate formula, see any book about EE.

Jos


  reply	other threads:[~2002-03-28  9:50 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 51+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2002-03-25  9:32 IDE and hot-swap disk caddies John Summerfield
2002-03-25 15:56 ` Alan Cox
2002-03-25 19:34   ` Bill Davidsen
2002-03-25 19:55     ` Alan Cox
2002-03-25 20:26       ` Wakko Warner
2002-03-25 21:20         ` Andre Hedrick
2002-03-25 22:32           ` Wakko Warner
2002-03-26  0:11             ` Thunder from the hill
2002-03-26 18:52           ` Pavel Machek
2002-03-27 22:38             ` Alan Cox
2002-03-27 22:29               ` Pavel Machek
2002-03-27 22:47                 ` Pedro M. Rodrigues
2002-03-27 23:21                   ` Jos Hulzink
2002-03-28 11:37                   ` Jos Hulzink
2002-03-27 22:51                 ` Alan Cox
2002-03-28  0:01                   ` Itai Nahshon
2002-03-28  0:11                     ` Andre Hedrick
2002-03-27 23:53                 ` Vojtech Pavlik
2002-03-25 23:16   ` John Summerfield
2002-03-26  3:32     ` Mark Lord
2002-03-26  5:28     ` Jeremy Jackson
2002-03-26  8:21       ` DE " jw schultz
2002-03-26 19:01         ` Pavel Machek
2002-03-27 22:34           ` jw schultz
2002-03-27 23:17             ` Jos Hulzink
2002-03-27 23:57               ` Andre Hedrick
2002-03-28  0:17                 ` Erik Andersen
2002-03-28  0:23                   ` Andre Hedrick
2002-03-28  0:31                     ` Benjamin LaHaise
2002-03-28  0:40                       ` Andre Hedrick
2002-03-28  2:02                         ` IDE " Jeremy Jackson
2002-03-28  9:33                           ` Alan Cox
2002-03-28  9:28                             ` Simon Richter
2002-03-28 16:25                             ` Jeremy Jackson
2002-03-28  9:33                       ` DE " Jos Hulzink
2002-03-28  0:37                   ` Alan Cox
2002-03-28  0:27                     ` Andre Hedrick
2002-03-28  4:24                       ` Chuck Campbell
2002-03-28  4:32                         ` Andre Hedrick
2002-03-28  8:00                     ` Martin Dalecki
2002-03-28  8:21                       ` Andre Hedrick
2002-03-28  9:01                         ` Martin Dalecki
2002-03-28  9:39                       ` Alan Cox
2002-03-28  9:50                         ` Jos Hulzink [this message]
2002-03-28  9:53                           ` Offtopic: " Martin Dalecki
2002-03-28 18:31                           ` Herman Oosthuysen
2002-03-28  9:29                   ` Jos Hulzink
2002-03-26 22:53       ` IDE " John Summerfield
2002-03-28 16:46         ` Bill Davidsen
2002-03-28 18:10           ` Mark Lord
2002-03-28 20:59             ` John Summerfield

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