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From: Jeff Garzik <garzik@havoc.gtf.org>
To: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH] Remove Bitkeeper documentation from Linux tree
Date: Sat, 20 Apr 2002 17:53:39 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20020420175339.A17177@havoc.gtf.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <E16ya3u-0000RG-00@starship> <20020420115233.A617@havoc.gtf.org> <3CC19470.ACE2EFA1@linux-m68k.org> <20020420122541.B2093@havoc.gtf.org> <3CC1A31B.AC03136D@linux-m68k.org> <20020420170348.A14186@havoc.gtf.org> <20020420213446.ZCGU13286.out019.verizon.net@pool-141-150-235-204.delv.east.verizon.net>

On Sat, Apr 20, 2002 at 05:36:45PM -0400, Skip Ford wrote:
> Jeff Garzik wrote:
> > 
> > And the answer is, it is BK documentation written for kernel developers
> > by kernel developers, with the intention of being a SubmittingPatches
> > document for BK users.  Very relevant to kernel devel.  This relevance
> > was proved by its origin -- emails bouncing back and forth, generally
> > originating by Linus, CC'ing me, asking me for the emails I had
> > already sent to other hackers, describing kernel development under BK.
> 
> That's not true.  Section 1 of 'SubmittingPatches' is entitled
> "Creating and Sending Your Change" while section 1 of your
> bk bullshit is called "Bitkeeper Concepts."
> 
> All of section 1 is an advertisement for using bk...including
> directions on how to setup your own clone.  Those are _clearly_
> bitkeeper directions and have nothing to do with how to submit
> patches.

What you call an ad is the result of evolution of several resendings
of similar emails, and answering FAQs.  This is the stuff that has
proven useful over time.

To call that an advertisement is to insult the kernel developers
that asked these questions, which are answered in the doc.  They were
not requesting endorsements, they were asking honest questions about
ways to optimize their kernel development, and merging with Linus.
Responding with an intro on how BK clones work has proven to be a
good first step to that.

	Jeff




  parent reply	other threads:[~2002-04-20 21:53 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 328+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2002-04-19 15:12 [PATCH] Remove Bitkeeper documentation from Linux tree Daniel Phillips
2002-04-20 15:52 ` Jeff Garzik
2002-04-20 16:16   ` Roman Zippel
2002-04-20 16:25     ` David Lang
2002-04-20 17:05       ` Roman Zippel
2002-04-20 17:16         ` Linus Torvalds
2002-04-20 16:25     ` Jeff Garzik
2002-04-19 16:33       ` Daniel Phillips
2002-04-20 16:56         ` Linus Torvalds
2002-04-19 17:17           ` Daniel Phillips
2002-04-20 17:35             ` Linus Torvalds
2002-04-20 17:38           ` Thunder from the hill
2002-04-21  2:26           ` Ian Molton
2002-06-18 19:12           ` Greg Stark
2002-04-20 17:19       ` [PATCH] " Roman Zippel
2002-04-20 21:03         ` Jeff Garzik
2002-04-20 21:36           ` Skip Ford
2002-04-20 21:40             ` Rik van Riel
2002-04-20 23:14               ` Larry McVoy
2002-04-20 21:53             ` Jeff Garzik [this message]
2002-04-21  0:04           ` Roman Zippel
2002-04-21  0:17             ` Larry McVoy
2002-04-21  9:22               ` Jochen Friedrich
2002-04-21 10:05                 ` Thunder from the hill
2002-04-21 10:17                   ` Thunder from the hill
2002-04-21 11:10                 ` Anton Altaparmakov
2002-04-21 16:46                   ` Jochen Friedrich
2002-04-21 17:00                     ` Larry McVoy
2002-04-21 17:05                     ` Anton Altaparmakov
2002-04-21 17:14                       ` Larry McVoy
2002-04-21 13:18                 ` Rik van Riel
2002-04-21 13:41                   ` yodaiken
2002-04-21 16:50                     ` Jochen Friedrich
2002-04-21 17:18                       ` yodaiken
2002-04-21 15:17                 ` Jeff Garzik
2002-04-21 16:32             ` Jeff Garzik
2002-04-20 16:46               ` Daniel Phillips
2002-04-21 16:57                 ` Jeff Garzik
2002-04-20 17:11                   ` Daniel Phillips
2002-04-22 12:06               ` Roman Zippel
2002-04-22 16:39                 ` Jeff Garzik
2002-04-23 13:49                   ` Roman Zippel
2002-04-23 14:51                     ` Larry McVoy
2002-04-22 15:29                       ` Daniel Phillips
2002-04-23 17:00                         ` Rik van Riel
2002-04-23 18:12                           ` Roman Zippel
2002-04-23 15:13                       ` Roman Zippel
2002-04-23 15:17                         ` Larry McVoy
2002-04-23 15:35                           ` Roman Zippel
2002-04-23 15:37                             ` Larry McVoy
2002-04-23 16:04                               ` Roman Zippel
2002-04-23 17:01                                 ` Rik van Riel
2002-04-23 17:06                                   ` Roman Zippel
2002-04-23 15:05                     ` Rik van Riel
2002-04-23 15:27                       ` Roman Zippel
2002-04-21  2:30           ` Ian Molton
2002-04-21 15:33             ` Jeff Garzik
2002-04-20 15:46               ` Daniel Phillips
2002-04-21 15:59                 ` Jeff Garzik
2002-04-21 23:36                   ` Ian Molton
2002-04-26 21:58                     ` Rik van Riel
2002-04-20 16:37   ` Linus Torvalds
2002-04-19 16:45     ` Daniel Phillips
2002-04-20 16:54       ` Alexander Viro
2002-04-21  2:36       ` Ian Molton
2002-04-20 15:54 ` Jeff Garzik
2002-04-20 16:29   ` Nils Philippsen
2002-04-20 16:56     ` Jeff Garzik
2002-04-21  2:38   ` Ian Molton
2002-04-20 16:13 ` Anton Altaparmakov
2002-04-19 16:21   ` Daniel Phillips
2002-04-20 16:51     ` Anton Altaparmakov
2002-04-19 17:05       ` Daniel Phillips
2002-04-20 17:09         ` Linus Torvalds
2002-04-19 17:32           ` Daniel Phillips
2002-04-20 17:51             ` Linus Torvalds
2002-04-19 21:02               ` Daniel Phillips
2002-04-20 21:07                 ` Jeff Garzik
2002-04-19 22:01                   ` Daniel Phillips
2002-04-20 22:20                     ` Jeff Garzik
2002-04-19 22:34                       ` Daniel Phillips
2002-04-20 22:54                         ` Jeff Garzik
2002-04-21  1:41                         ` Rob Landley
2002-04-20 15:44                           ` Daniel Phillips
2002-04-21 15:52                             ` Rob Landley
2002-04-21 15:59                             ` Russell King
2002-04-20 16:10                               ` Daniel Phillips
2002-04-21 16:15                                 ` Russell King
2002-04-21 16:15                                 ` Jeff Garzik
2002-04-21 16:02                             ` arjan
2002-04-20 22:30                     ` Stelian Pop
2002-04-21  2:46                       ` Ian Molton
2002-04-20 22:37                     ` Russell King
2002-04-20 23:15                     ` Kenneth Johansson
2002-04-20 17:05                       ` Daniel Phillips
2002-04-21 17:15                         ` Jeff Garzik
2002-04-21  1:38                   ` Oliver Xymoron
2002-04-21 15:32                     ` Jeff Garzik
2002-04-20 22:00                 ` Stevie O
2002-04-20 22:14                   ` Anton Altaparmakov
2002-04-21  2:48                     ` Ian Molton
2002-04-20 22:31                   ` Jeff Garzik
2002-04-21 17:16                 ` Suggestion " CaT
2002-04-21 17:40                   ` Larry McVoy
2002-04-20 17:50                     ` Daniel Phillips
2002-04-21 17:54                       ` CaT
2002-04-21 18:11                         ` Larry McVoy
2002-04-21 18:20                           ` Jeff Garzik
2002-04-21 18:23                             ` Larry McVoy
2002-04-21 18:12                         ` Jeff Garzik
2002-04-20 18:23                           ` Daniel Phillips
2002-04-21 18:30                             ` Jeff Garzik
2002-04-20 19:01                               ` Daniel Phillips
2002-04-23  6:04                                 ` Jamie Lokier
2002-04-22 10:44                                   ` Daniel Phillips
2002-04-22 10:47                                   ` Daniel Phillips
2002-04-23 10:57                                     ` Rasmus Andersen
2002-04-21 22:08                       ` Barry K. Nathan
2002-04-21 17:48                     ` Jeff Garzik
2002-04-21 17:54                       ` Larry McVoy
2002-04-21 17:59                         ` Jeff Garzik
2002-04-21 18:18                           ` Larry McVoy
2002-04-23 12:10                         ` Jes Sorensen
2002-04-23 15:02                           ` Larry McVoy
2002-04-23 15:07                             ` Jes Sorensen
2002-04-23 15:12                               ` Larry McVoy
2002-04-23 16:06                                 ` Christoph Hellwig
2002-04-24  9:03                             ` David Woodhouse
2002-04-24 11:33                               ` Dave Jones
2002-04-21 18:53                     ` Linus Torvalds
2002-04-21 18:25                   ` Tigran Aivazian
2002-04-20 17:51             ` Larry McVoy
2002-04-19 18:27               ` Daniel Phillips
2002-04-20 17:51                 ` Rob Landley
2002-04-20 18:41                 ` Jeff Garzik
2002-04-20 17:15         ` Jeff Garzik
2002-04-20 17:19         ` Dave Jones
2002-04-20 17:58       ` Eric W. Biederman
2002-04-20 18:35         ` Anton Altaparmakov
2002-04-20 18:13     ` Rik van Riel
2002-04-19 19:43       ` Daniel Phillips
2002-04-20 20:04         ` Jeff Garzik
2002-04-21  2:53           ` Ian Molton
2002-04-21  1:46         ` Rob Landley
2002-04-21 15:51           ` Jeff Garzik
2002-04-21 16:26             ` Tigran Aivazian
2002-04-20 16:34               ` Daniel Phillips
2002-04-21 16:27     ` Richard Gooch
2002-04-20 16:36       ` Daniel Phillips
2002-04-21 16:45         ` Richard Gooch
2002-04-20 17:41 ` Larry McVoy
2002-04-19 18:07   ` Daniel Phillips
2002-04-20 17:53 ` Eric W. Biederman
2002-04-19 18:15   ` Daniel Phillips
2002-04-20 18:44     ` Eric W. Biederman
2002-04-19 19:22       ` Daniel Phillips
2002-04-20 18:48     ` Russell King
2002-04-19 19:19       ` Daniel Phillips
2002-04-21  2:57       ` Ian Molton
2002-04-21  2:56         ` Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo
2002-04-21  3:46           ` Ian Molton
2002-04-21  3:43             ` Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo
2002-04-21  4:05             ` BK, deltas, snapshots and fate of -pre Alexander Viro
2002-04-21  1:53               ` Rob Landley
2002-04-21 18:40                 ` Linus Torvalds
2002-04-21 23:08                   ` Pavel Machek
2002-04-24  2:23                     ` Linus Torvalds
2002-04-21  3:59               ` David S. Miller
2002-04-21  4:32                 ` Andrew Morton
2002-04-21  5:59                   ` Andreas Dilger
2002-04-21  4:13               ` Linus Torvalds
2002-04-21 12:53                 ` Daniel Phillips
2002-04-22 15:44                   ` Larry McVoy
2002-04-21 15:50                     ` Daniel Phillips
2002-04-22 16:10                       ` Larry McVoy
2002-04-21 16:21                         ` Daniel Phillips
2002-04-22 17:17                           ` Larry McVoy
2002-04-21 17:34                             ` Daniel Phillips
2002-04-22 17:38                               ` Larry McVoy
2002-04-21 17:49                                 ` Daniel Phillips
2002-04-22 17:53                                   ` Larry McVoy
2002-04-21 18:09                                     ` Daniel Phillips
2002-04-22 19:53                               ` Doug Ledford
2002-04-21 20:29                                 ` Daniel Phillips
2002-04-22 20:53                                   ` Doug Ledford
2002-04-21 21:05                                     ` Daniel Phillips
2002-04-22 21:21                                       ` Doug Ledford
2002-04-21 21:37                                         ` Daniel Phillips
2002-04-22 21:45                                           ` Alexander Viro
2002-04-22 22:49                                             ` Larry McVoy
2002-04-22 22:08                                           ` Doug Ledford
2002-04-22 22:25                                           ` Jeff Garzik
2002-04-22 21:25                                       ` Jeff Garzik
2002-04-22 21:30                                         ` Doug Ledford
2002-04-22 21:33                                       ` Nicholas Harring
2002-04-25 20:53                                     ` Kai Henningsen
2002-04-21 23:16                                 ` Pavel Machek
2002-04-23 20:45                                   ` Rik van Riel
2002-04-25  3:51                                     ` Ian Molton
2002-04-25  3:55                                       ` Olivier Galibert
2002-04-25 12:38                                         ` Ian Molton
2002-04-25 13:33                                       ` David Woodhouse
2002-04-25 14:29                                         ` Richard Gooch
2002-04-25 15:41                                       ` Rik van Riel
2002-04-22 17:31                             ` Jeff Garzik
2002-04-27 18:59                             ` Richard Gooch
2002-04-26 20:19                               ` Daniel Phillips
2002-04-28 17:42                                 ` Richard Gooch
2002-04-26 20:38                               ` Daniel Phillips
2002-04-28 17:52                                 ` Richard Gooch
2002-04-27 20:02                               ` Roman Zippel
2002-04-28 17:40                                 ` Richard Gooch
2002-04-28 18:08                                   ` Linus Torvalds
2002-04-28 18:47                                     ` Richard Gooch
2002-04-28 19:07                                       ` Kiss The Blade
2002-04-28 19:27                                         ` Linus Torvalds
2002-04-28 19:41                                           ` Richard Gooch
2002-04-28 19:49                                           ` Kiss The Blade
2002-04-28 19:42                                             ` Richard Gooch
2002-04-28 20:03                                           ` tomas szepe
2002-04-28 20:11                                     ` Roman Zippel
2002-04-28 20:40                                       ` Kiss The Blade
2002-04-29  6:55                                         ` Kai Henningsen
2002-04-29  6:55                                         ` Kai Henningsen
2002-04-28 20:06                                   ` Roman Zippel
2002-04-27 20:40                               ` Larry McVoy
2002-04-22 17:10                       ` Jeff Garzik
2002-04-21 17:17                         ` Daniel Phillips
2002-04-22 17:19                           ` Jeff Garzik
2002-04-21 17:37                             ` Daniel Phillips
2002-04-22 17:46                               ` Jeff Garzik
2002-04-22 17:21                           ` Larry McVoy
2002-04-21 17:44                             ` Daniel Phillips
2002-04-22 17:48                               ` Larry McVoy
2002-04-21 18:03                                 ` Daniel Phillips
2002-04-22 17:52                               ` Jeff Garzik
2002-04-21 18:05                                 ` Daniel Phillips
2002-04-22 20:18                                   ` Jeff Garzik
2002-04-21 20:42                                     ` Daniel Phillips
2002-04-22 20:57                                       ` Jeff Garzik
2002-04-21 21:06                                         ` Daniel Phillips
2002-04-22 20:57                                       ` Anton Altaparmakov
2002-04-22 18:01                           ` Anton Altaparmakov
2002-04-21 18:16                             ` Daniel Phillips
2002-04-22 18:29                               ` Anton Altaparmakov
2002-04-21 18:47                                 ` Daniel Phillips
2002-04-22 19:41                                   ` Anton Altaparmakov
2002-04-23  4:57                               ` Andre Pang
2002-04-22 11:34                                 ` Daniel Phillips
2002-04-23  5:56                                 ` Andreas Dilger
2002-04-21  4:31               ` Ian Molton
2002-04-21  4:20                 ` David S. Miller
2002-04-21  4:42                   ` Ian Molton
2002-04-21  4:29                     ` David S. Miller
2002-04-21  4:49                     ` Ben Greear
2002-04-21  6:27                     ` Alexander Viro
2002-04-21 11:18                       ` Ian Molton
2002-04-21 16:28                     ` dean gaudet
2002-04-21 12:57                   ` Daniel Phillips
2002-04-22 13:14                     ` Impressions of 2.5.8 Matthew D. Pitts
2002-04-21  4:40               ` BK, deltas, snapshots and fate of -pre Skip Ford
2002-04-21  8:31                 ` Russell King
2002-04-21 13:05                   ` Daniel Phillips
2002-04-22 13:08                     ` Russell King
2002-04-21 20:53                   ` Skip Ford
2002-04-21 16:35                 ` dean gaudet
2002-04-21 17:13               ` Jeff Garzik
2002-04-21 17:23                 ` Larry McVoy
2002-04-21 17:32                   ` Jeff Garzik
2002-04-21 17:39                     ` Larry McVoy
2002-04-21 17:45                       ` Jeff Garzik
2002-04-21 17:47                         ` Larry McVoy
2002-04-21 17:49                           ` Jeff Garzik
2002-04-21 17:57                             ` Larry McVoy
2002-04-21 18:07                               ` Jeff Garzik
2002-04-21 18:14                                 ` Larry McVoy
2002-04-21 18:24                                   ` Jeff Garzik
2002-04-21 18:26                                     ` Larry McVoy
2002-04-22  6:33               ` Rusty Russell
2002-04-21 15:36             ` [PATCH] Remove Bitkeeper documentation from Linux tree Jeff Garzik
2002-04-21  9:28           ` Jochen Friedrich
2002-04-21 15:53             ` Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo
2002-04-21 18:11             ` John Alvord
2002-04-21 18:15               ` Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo
2002-04-21 15:35         ` Jeff Garzik
2002-04-20 17:09           ` Daniel Phillips
     [not found] <20020421101731.D10525@work.bitmover.com>
2002-04-21 17:22 ` Jeff Garzik
2002-04-20 17:48   ` Daniel Phillips
2002-04-21 17:55     ` Jeff Garzik
2002-04-20 18:07       ` Daniel Phillips
2002-04-20 18:13       ` Daniel Phillips
2002-04-21 18:15         ` Jeff Garzik
2002-04-20 18:26           ` Daniel Phillips
2002-04-21 18:40             ` Jeff Garzik
2002-04-21 18:21         ` Larry McVoy
2002-04-20 18:29           ` Daniel Phillips
2002-04-21 18:36             ` Larry McVoy
2002-04-20 18:46               ` Daniel Phillips
2002-04-21 19:07                 ` Larry McVoy
2002-04-21 14:39               ` Daniel Phillips
2002-04-21 18:38             ` yodaiken
2002-04-21 18:08     ` Larry McVoy
2002-04-20 18:15       ` Daniel Phillips
2002-04-21 19:06         ` dean gaudet
2002-04-21 14:53           ` Daniel Phillips
2002-04-22 17:03             ` Jeff Garzik
2002-04-21 17:27               ` Daniel Phillips
2002-04-22 17:30                 ` Larry McVoy
2002-04-21 17:47                   ` Daniel Phillips
2002-04-22 17:40                 ` Jeff Garzik
2002-04-21 17:57                   ` Daniel Phillips
2002-04-22 20:47                     ` Jeff Garzik
2002-04-21 20:54                       ` Daniel Phillips
2002-04-22 22:04                       ` Davide Libenzi
2002-04-21 20:22           ` Andrew Morton
2002-04-22  0:01             ` Larry McVoy
2002-04-22 20:32             ` Jeff Garzik
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2002-04-22 18:37 Jonathan A. George
2002-04-22 18:58 ` Jeff Garzik
2002-04-22 19:19   ` Jonathan A. George
2002-04-22 19:51     ` Alexander Viro
2002-04-22 19:56       ` Jonathan A. George
2002-04-22 20:13         ` Alexander Viro
2002-04-22 19:52     ` Jeff Garzik
2002-04-22 21:53   ` Jonathan A. George
2002-04-22 19:47 ` Anton Altaparmakov
2002-04-22 19:54   ` Jeff Garzik
2002-04-22 21:13 ` Rik van Riel

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