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From: Arjan van de Ven <arjanv@redhat.com>
To: Dave Hansen <haveblue@us.ibm.com>, g@redhat.com
Cc: Russell King <rmk@arm.linux.org.uk>,
	Arjan van de Ven <arjanv@redhat.com>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: devfs: BKL *not* taken while opening devices
Date: Tue, 30 Apr 2002 12:52:14 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20020430125214.A19533@devserv.devel.redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20020429141301.B16778@flint.arm.linux.org.uk> <3CCD672E.5040005@us.ibm.com> <3CCD811E.8689F4B0@redhat.com> <20020430134557.C26943@flint.arm.linux.org.uk> <3CCEC978.2090602@us.ibm.com>

On Tue, Apr 30, 2002 at 09:42:32AM -0700, Dave Hansen wrote:
> Russell King wrote:
> > On Mon, Apr 29, 2002 at 06:21:34PM +0100, Arjan van de Ven wrote:
> > 
> >>I'm not convinced of that. It's not nearly a critical path and it's
> >>better to get even the "dumb" drivers safe than to risk having big
> >>security holes in there for years to come.
> > 
> > Would it be worth dropping a  BUG_ON(!kernel_locked()) in tty_open() to
> > catch this type of error?  The tty code heavily relies on the BKL.
> > 
> > This way, such locking problems would get caught early, since everyone
> > uses the tty code during boot, right?
> 
> I like the idea.  But, while we're at it, does anyone have a good enough 
> grasp of locking the the TTY layer that we can start peeling some of the 
> BKL out of there?  Somebody was doing tests over a serial console here 
> and the lockmeter data showed horrible BKL contention and hold times.

I really really doubt that fixing contention will make serial ports go
faster... it'll just move to another lock since I suspect we're
just waiting for hardware

  reply	other threads:[~2002-04-30 16:54 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 14+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2002-04-29 13:13 devfs: BKL *not* taken while opening devices Russell King
2002-04-29 15:30 ` Dave Hansen
2002-04-29 17:21   ` Arjan van de Ven
2002-04-29 17:40     ` Roman Zippel
2002-04-29 17:46       ` Arjan van de Ven
2002-05-02 16:44         ` Alan Cox
2002-04-29 17:52       ` Dave Hansen
2002-04-30 12:45     ` Russell King
2002-04-30 16:42       ` Dave Hansen
2002-04-30 16:52         ` Arjan van de Ven [this message]
2002-04-30 16:58           ` Dave Hansen
2002-04-30 18:26           ` Martin J. Bligh
2002-04-30 17:03         ` Russell King
2002-05-11  0:45 ` Richard Gooch

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