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From: Andrea Arcangeli <andrea@suse.de>
To: Daniel Phillips <phillips@bonn-fries.net>
Cc: Russell King <rmk@arm.linux.org.uk>, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: Bug: Discontigmem virt_to_page() [Alpha,ARM,Mips64?]
Date: Thu, 2 May 2002 15:34:02 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20020502153402.A11414@dualathlon.random> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20020426192711.D18350@flint.arm.linux.org.uk> <E172isy-0001rL-00@starship> <20020502034318.T11414@dualathlon.random> <E172k3S-0001sH-00@starship>

On Wed, May 01, 2002 at 04:41:17AM +0200, Daniel Phillips wrote:
> On Thursday 02 May 2002 03:43, Andrea Arcangeli wrote:
> > On Wed, May 01, 2002 at 03:26:22AM +0200, Daniel Phillips wrote:
> > > For your information, the mem_map lives in *virtual* memory, it does not
> > > need to change location, only the kernel page tables need to be updated,
> > > to allow a section of kernel memory to be moved to a different physical
> > > location.  For user memory, this was always possible, now it is possible
> > > for kernel memory as well.  Naturally, it's not all you have to do to get
> > > hotplug memory, but it's a big step in that direction.
> > 
> > what kernel pagetables?
> 
> The normal page tables that are used to map kernel memory.
> 
> > pagetables for space that you left free for what?
> 
> These page tables have not been left free for anything.  The nice thing about
> page tables is that you can change the page table entries to point wherever
> you want.  (I know you know this.)  This is what config_nonlinear supports,
> and that is why it's called config_nonlinear.  When we want to remap part of
> the kernel memory to a different piece of physical memory, we just need to
> fill in some pte's.  The tricky part is knowing how to fill in the ptes, and
> config_nonlinear takes care of that.
> 
> > You waste virtual space for that at the very least on x86 that is
> > just very tigh, at this point kernel virtual space is more costly than
> > physical space these days. And nevertheless most archs doesn't have
> > pagetables at all to read and write the page structures. yes it's
> > virtual memory but it's a direct mapping.
> 
> Most architectures?  That's quite possibly an exaggeration.  Some
> architectures - MIPS32 for example - make this difficult or impossible,
> and so what?  Those can't do software hotplug memory, sorry.

alpha is the same as mips I think. sparc would be the same too if
there's any discontigmem sparc. Dunno of arm. We're talking about
architectures needing discontigmem, 99% percent of users  doesn't need
discontigmem in the first place, you never need discontigmem in x86 and
even in new-numa you don't need discontigmem, you want to pass through
discontigmem only to get the numa topology description that the current
discontigmem provides via the pgdat.

Andrea

  reply	other threads:[~2002-05-02 13:34 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 152+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2002-04-26 18:27 Bug: Discontigmem virt_to_page() [Alpha,ARM,Mips64?] Russell King
2002-04-26 22:46 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2002-04-29 17:50   ` Martin J. Bligh
2002-04-29 22:00   ` Roman Zippel
2002-04-30  0:43     ` Andrea Arcangeli
2002-04-27 22:10 ` Daniel Phillips
2002-04-29 13:35   ` Andrea Arcangeli
2002-04-29 23:02     ` Daniel Phillips
2002-05-01  2:23       ` Andrea Arcangeli
2002-04-30 23:12         ` Daniel Phillips
2002-05-01  1:05           ` Daniel Phillips
2002-05-02  0:47           ` Andrea Arcangeli
2002-05-01  1:26             ` Daniel Phillips
2002-05-02  1:43               ` Andrea Arcangeli
2002-05-01  2:41                 ` Daniel Phillips
2002-05-02 13:34                   ` Andrea Arcangeli [this message]
2002-05-02 15:18                     ` Martin J. Bligh
2002-05-02 15:35                       ` Andrea Arcangeli
2002-05-01 15:42                         ` Daniel Phillips
2002-05-02 16:06                           ` Andrea Arcangeli
2002-05-02 16:10                             ` Martin J. Bligh
2002-05-02 16:40                               ` Andrea Arcangeli
2002-05-02 17:16                                 ` William Lee Irwin III
2002-05-02 18:41                                   ` Andrea Arcangeli
2002-05-02 19:19                                     ` William Lee Irwin III
2002-05-02 19:27                                       ` Daniel Phillips
2002-05-02 19:38                                         ` William Lee Irwin III
2002-05-02 19:58                                           ` Daniel Phillips
2002-05-03  6:28                                           ` Andrea Arcangeli
2002-05-03  6:10                                         ` Andrea Arcangeli
2002-05-02 22:20                                       ` Martin J. Bligh
2002-05-02 21:28                                         ` William Lee Irwin III
2002-05-02 21:52                                           ` Kurt Ferreira
2002-05-02 21:55                                             ` William Lee Irwin III
2002-05-03  6:38                                         ` Andrea Arcangeli
2002-05-03  6:58                                           ` Martin J. Bligh
2002-05-03  6:04                                       ` Andrea Arcangeli
2002-05-03  6:33                                         ` Martin J. Bligh
2002-05-03  8:38                                           ` Andrea Arcangeli
2002-05-03  9:26                                             ` William Lee Irwin III
2002-05-03 15:38                                               ` Martin J. Bligh
2002-05-03 15:17                                             ` Virtual address space exhaustion (was Discontigmem virt_to_page() ) Martin J. Bligh
2002-05-03 15:58                                               ` Andrea Arcangeli
2002-05-03 16:10                                                 ` Martin J. Bligh
2002-05-03 16:25                                                   ` Andrea Arcangeli
2002-05-03 16:02                                               ` Daniel Phillips
2002-05-03 16:20                                                 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2002-05-03 16:41                                                   ` Daniel Phillips
2002-05-03 16:58                                                     ` Andrea Arcangeli
2002-05-03 18:08                                                       ` Daniel Phillips
2002-05-03  9:24                                         ` Bug: Discontigmem virt_to_page() [Alpha,ARM,Mips64?] William Lee Irwin III
2002-05-03 10:30                                           ` Andrea Arcangeli
2002-05-03 11:09                                             ` William Lee Irwin III
2002-05-03 11:27                                               ` Andrea Arcangeli
2002-05-03 15:42                                             ` Martin J. Bligh
2002-05-03 15:32                                           ` Martin J. Bligh
2002-05-02 19:22                                     ` Daniel Phillips
2002-05-03  6:06                                       ` Andrea Arcangeli
2002-05-02 18:25                                 ` Daniel Phillips
2002-05-02 18:44                                   ` Andrea Arcangeli
2002-05-02 19:31                                 ` Martin J. Bligh
2002-05-02 18:57                                   ` Andrea Arcangeli
2002-05-02 19:08                                     ` Daniel Phillips
2002-05-03  5:15                                       ` Andrea Arcangeli
2002-05-05 23:54                                         ` Daniel Phillips
2002-05-06  0:28                                           ` Andrea Arcangeli
2002-05-06  0:34                                             ` Daniel Phillips
2002-05-06  1:01                                               ` Andrea Arcangeli
2002-05-06  0:55                                           ` Russell King
2002-05-06  1:07                                             ` Daniel Phillips
2002-05-06  1:20                                               ` Andrea Arcangeli
2002-05-06  1:24                                                 ` Daniel Phillips
2002-05-06  1:42                                                   ` Andrea Arcangeli
2002-05-06  1:48                                                     ` Daniel Phillips
2002-05-06  2:06                                                       ` Andrea Arcangeli
2002-05-06 17:40                                                         ` Daniel Phillips
2002-05-06 19:09                                                           ` Martin J. Bligh
2002-05-06  1:09                                             ` Andrea Arcangeli
2002-05-06  1:13                                             ` Daniel Phillips
2002-05-06  2:03                                             ` Daniel Phillips
2002-05-06  2:31                                               ` Andrea Arcangeli
2002-05-06  8:57                                               ` Russell King
2002-05-06  8:54                                           ` Roman Zippel
2002-05-06 15:26                                             ` Daniel Phillips
2002-05-06 19:07                                               ` Roman Zippel
2002-05-08 15:57                                                 ` Daniel Phillips
2002-05-08 23:11                                                   ` Roman Zippel
2002-05-09 16:08                                                     ` Daniel Phillips
2002-05-09 22:06                                                       ` Roman Zippel
2002-05-09 22:22                                                         ` Daniel Phillips
2002-05-09 23:00                                                           ` Roman Zippel
2002-05-09 23:22                                                             ` Daniel Phillips
2002-05-10  0:13                                                               ` Roman Zippel
2002-05-02 22:39                                     ` Martin J. Bligh
2002-05-03  7:04                                       ` Andrea Arcangeli
2002-05-02 23:42                             ` Daniel Phillips
2002-05-03  7:45                               ` Andrea Arcangeli
2002-05-02 16:07                         ` Martin J. Bligh
2002-05-02 16:58                           ` Gerrit Huizenga
2002-05-02 18:10                             ` Andrea Arcangeli
2002-05-02 19:28                               ` Gerrit Huizenga
2002-05-02 22:23                                 ` Martin J. Bligh
2002-05-03  6:20                                 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2002-05-03  6:39                                   ` Martin J. Bligh
2002-05-02 16:00                     ` William Lee Irwin III
2002-05-02  2:37             ` William Lee Irwin III
2002-05-02 15:59               ` Andrea Arcangeli
2002-05-02 16:06                 ` William Lee Irwin III
2002-05-01 18:05         ` Jesse Barnes
2002-05-01 23:17           ` Andrea Arcangeli
2002-05-01 23:23             ` discontiguous memory platforms Jesse Barnes
2002-05-02  0:51               ` Ralf Baechle
2002-05-02  1:27                 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2002-05-02  1:32                   ` Ralf Baechle
2002-05-02  8:50                   ` Roman Zippel
2002-05-01 13:21                     ` Daniel Phillips
2002-05-02 14:00                       ` Roman Zippel
2002-05-01 14:08                         ` Daniel Phillips
2002-05-02 17:56                           ` Roman Zippel
2002-05-01 17:59                             ` Daniel Phillips
2002-05-02 18:26                               ` Roman Zippel
2002-05-02 18:32                                 ` Daniel Phillips
2002-05-02 19:40                                   ` Roman Zippel
2002-05-02 20:14                                     ` Daniel Phillips
2002-05-03  6:34                                       ` Andrea Arcangeli
2002-05-03  9:33                                       ` Roman Zippel
2002-05-03  6:30                                     ` Andrea Arcangeli
2002-05-02 18:35                     ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2002-05-02 18:39                       ` Daniel Phillips
2002-05-02  0:20             ` Bug: Discontigmem virt_to_page() [Alpha,ARM,Mips64?] Anton Blanchard
2002-05-01  1:35               ` Daniel Phillips
2002-05-02  1:45                 ` William Lee Irwin III
2002-05-01  2:02                   ` Daniel Phillips
2002-05-02  2:33                     ` William Lee Irwin III
2002-05-01  2:44                       ` Daniel Phillips
2002-05-02  1:46                 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2002-05-01  1:56                   ` Daniel Phillips
2002-05-02  1:01               ` Andrea Arcangeli
2002-05-02 15:28                 ` Anton Blanchard
2002-05-01 16:10                   ` Daniel Phillips
2002-05-02 15:59                   ` Dave Engebretsen
2002-05-01 17:24                     ` Daniel Phillips
2002-05-02 16:44                       ` Dave Engebretsen
2002-05-02 16:31                   ` William Lee Irwin III
2002-05-02 16:21                     ` Dave Engebretsen
2002-05-02 17:28                       ` William Lee Irwin III
2002-05-02 23:05               ` Daniel Phillips
2002-05-03  0:05                 ` William Lee Irwin III
2002-05-03  1:19                   ` Daniel Phillips
2002-05-03 19:47                     ` Dave Engebretsen
2002-05-03 22:06                       ` Daniel Phillips
2002-05-03 23:52               ` David Mosberger

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