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From: Anton Blanchard <anton@samba.org>
To: Alan Cox <alan@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk>
Cc: Dave Engebretsen <engebret@vnet.ibm.com>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, jbarnes@sgi.com
Subject: Re: Memory Barrier Definitions
Date: Wed, 8 May 2002 08:57:52 +1000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20020507225752.GA21321@krispykreme> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <3CD830BE.CAB7FA96@vnet.ibm.com> <E175BY8-0008S4-00@the-village.bc.nu>


> You have
> 
> 	Compiler ordering
> 	CPU v CPU memory ordering
> 	CPU v I/O memory ordering
> 	I/O v I/O memory ordering

Yep. Maybe we could have:

CPU v CPU	smp_*mb or cpu_*mb 
CPU v I/O	*mb
I/O v I/O	io_*mb

Then again before Linus hits me on the head for hoarding vowels,

http://hypermail.spyroid.com/linux-kernel/archived/2001/week41/1270.html

I should suggest we make these a little less cryptic:

CPU v CPU	cpu_{read,write,memory}_barrier
CPU v I/O	{read,write,memory}_barrier
I/O v I/O	io_{read,write,memory}_barrier

> and our current heirarchy is a little bit more squashed than that. I'd 
> agree. We actually hit a corner case of this on the IDT winchip x86 where
> we run relaxed store ordering and have to define wmb() as a locked add of
> zero to the top of stack - which does have a penalty that isnt needed
> for CPU ordering.
> 
> How much of this impacts Mips64 ?

I remember some ia64 implementations have issues. Jesse, could you
fill us in again? I think you have problems with out of order
loads/stores to noncacheable space, right?

Anton

  parent reply	other threads:[~2002-05-07 23:03 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 23+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2002-05-07 19:07 Memory Barrier Definitions Dave Engebretsen
2002-05-07 19:49 ` Alan Cox
2002-05-07 19:53   ` Dave Engebretsen
2002-05-07 20:27     ` Alan Cox
2002-05-07 21:23       ` Dave Engebretsen
2002-05-07 22:15       ` justincarlson
2002-05-08  2:49         ` Dave Engebretsen
2002-05-08 13:54           ` Justin Carlson
2002-05-08 15:27           ` Dave Engebretsen
2002-05-08 15:49             ` Andi Kleen
2002-05-08 17:07             ` David Mosberger
2002-05-09  7:36               ` Rusty Russell
2002-05-09  8:01                 ` Keith Owens
2002-05-09 15:00                 ` David Mosberger
2002-05-13  3:26                   ` Rusty Russell
2002-05-13 16:36                     ` David Mosberger
2002-05-13 16:50                       ` Linus Torvalds
2002-05-13 17:53                         ` David Mosberger
2002-05-13 23:28                         ` Rusty Russell
2002-05-07 22:57       ` Anton Blanchard [this message]
2002-05-13 18:16         ` Jesse Barnes
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2002-05-09 11:33 Manfred Spraul
2002-05-09 19:38 ` Dave Engebretsen

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