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From: Rusty Russell <rusty@rustcorp.com.au>
To: davidm@hpl.hp.com
Cc: davidm@napali.hpl.hp.com, engebret@vnet.ibm.com,
	justincarlson@cmu.edu, alan@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, anton@samba.org, ak@suse.de
Subject: Re: Memory Barrier Definitions
Date: Thu, 9 May 2002 17:36:46 +1000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20020509173646.5c1b5baa.rusty@rustcorp.com.au> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <15577.23356.338023.88947@napali.hpl.hp.com>

On Wed, 8 May 2002 10:07:08 -0700
David Mosberger <davidm@napali.hpl.hp.com> wrote:

> The ia64 memory ordering model is quite orthogonal to the one that
> Linux uses (which is based on the Alpha instructions): Linux
> distinguishes between read and write memory barriers.  ia64 uses an
> acquire/release model instead.  An acquire orders all *later* memory
> accesses and a release orders all *earlier* accesses (regardless of
> whether they are reads or writes).  Another difference is that the
> acquire/release semantics is attached to load/store instructions,
> respectively.  This means that in an ideal world, ia64 would rarely
> need to use the memory barrier instruction.

Hmmm... could you explain more?  You're saying that every load is
an "acquire" and every store a "release"?  Or that they can be flagged
that way, but aren't always?

Does this means that an "acquire" means "all accesses after this insn
(in the code stream) must occur after this insn (in time)"?  Does
that only apply to the address that instruction touched, or all?

Confused,
Rusty.
-- 
   there are those who do and those who hang on and you don't see too
   many doers quoting their contemporaries.  -- Larry McVoy

  reply	other threads:[~2002-05-09  7:36 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 23+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2002-05-07 19:07 Memory Barrier Definitions Dave Engebretsen
2002-05-07 19:49 ` Alan Cox
2002-05-07 19:53   ` Dave Engebretsen
2002-05-07 20:27     ` Alan Cox
2002-05-07 21:23       ` Dave Engebretsen
2002-05-07 22:15       ` justincarlson
2002-05-08  2:49         ` Dave Engebretsen
2002-05-08 13:54           ` Justin Carlson
2002-05-08 15:27           ` Dave Engebretsen
2002-05-08 15:49             ` Andi Kleen
2002-05-08 17:07             ` David Mosberger
2002-05-09  7:36               ` Rusty Russell [this message]
2002-05-09  8:01                 ` Keith Owens
2002-05-09 15:00                 ` David Mosberger
2002-05-13  3:26                   ` Rusty Russell
2002-05-13 16:36                     ` David Mosberger
2002-05-13 16:50                       ` Linus Torvalds
2002-05-13 17:53                         ` David Mosberger
2002-05-13 23:28                         ` Rusty Russell
2002-05-07 22:57       ` Anton Blanchard
2002-05-13 18:16         ` Jesse Barnes
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2002-05-09 11:33 Manfred Spraul
2002-05-09 19:38 ` Dave Engebretsen

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