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From: Daniel Jacobowitz <dan@debian.org>
To: Andi Kleen <ak@suse.de>
Cc: Mark Gross <mgross@unix-os.sc.intel.com>, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: PATCH Multithreaded core dump support for the 2.5.14 (and 15) kernel.
Date: Thu, 16 May 2002 13:36:34 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20020516173634.GA16561@nevyn.them.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <59885C5E3098D511AD690002A5072D3C057B485B@orsmsx111.jf.intel.com.suse.lists.linux.kernel> <200205152353.g4FNrew30146@unix-os.sc.intel.com.suse.lists.linux.kernel> <p73it5oz21j.fsf@oldwotan.suse.de> <200205161714.g4GHE3w02908@unix-os.sc.intel.com> <20020516192759.A5326@wotan.suse.de>

On Thu, May 16, 2002 at 07:27:59PM +0200, Andi Kleen wrote:
> On Thu, May 16, 2002 at 10:13:40AM -0400, Mark Gross wrote:
> > Also, does anyone know WHY the mmap_sem is needed in the elf_core_dump code, 
> > and is this need still valid if I've suspended all the other processes that 
> > could even touch that mm?  I.e. can I fix this by removing the down_write / 
> > up_write in elf_core_dump?
> 
> The mmap_sem is needed to access current->mm (especially the vma list)
> safely. Otherwise someone else sharing the mm_struct could modify it. 
> If you make sure all others sharing the mm_struct are killed first 
> (including now way for them to start new clones inbetween) then
> the only loophole left would be remote access using /proc/pid/mem or ptrace. 
> If you handle that too then it is probably safe to drop it. Unfortunately
> I don't see a way to handle these remote users without at least 
> taking it temporarily.
> 
> Of course there are other semaphores in involved in dumping too (e.g. the
> VFS ->write code may take the i_sem or other private ones). I guess they 
> won't be a big problem if you first kill and then dump later.

Except unfortunately we don't kill; the other threads are resumed
afterwards for cleanup.  They're just suspended.

-- 
Daniel Jacobowitz                           Carnegie Mellon University
MontaVista Software                         Debian GNU/Linux Developer

  reply	other threads:[~2002-05-16 17:36 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 17+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <59885C5E3098D511AD690002A5072D3C057B485B@orsmsx111.jf.intel.com.suse.lists.linux.kernel>
     [not found] ` <20020515120722.A17644@in.ibm.com.suse.lists.linux.kernel>
     [not found]   ` <20020515140448.C37@toy.ucw.cz.suse.lists.linux.kernel>
     [not found]     ` <200205152353.g4FNrew30146@unix-os.sc.intel.com.suse.lists.linux.kernel>
2002-05-16 12:54       ` PATCH Multithreaded core dump support for the 2.5.14 (and 15) kernel Andi Kleen
2002-05-16 14:13         ` Mark Gross
2002-05-16 17:27           ` Andi Kleen
2002-05-16 17:36             ` Daniel Jacobowitz [this message]
2002-05-16 18:08               ` Mark Gross
2002-05-16 21:32                 ` Alan Cox
2002-05-16 21:24                   ` Robert Love
2002-05-16 18:40                     ` Mark Gross
2002-05-20 15:44 Gross, Mark
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2002-05-17 12:26 Erich Focht
2002-05-14 16:38 Gross, Mark
2002-05-15  6:37 ` Vamsi Krishna S .
2002-05-15 14:04   ` Pavel Machek
2002-05-15 20:53     ` Mark Gross
2002-05-16 10:11       ` Pavel Machek
2002-05-13 19:17 Mark Gross
2002-05-14 15:35 ` Erich Focht

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