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From: Dave Jones <davej@suse.de>
To: Wayne.Brown@altec.com
Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: kbuild 2.5 is ready for inclusion in the 2.5 kernel - take 3
Date: Fri, 17 May 2002 22:09:22 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20020517220922.M4712@suse.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <86256BBC.006D500D.00@smtpnotes.altec.com>

On Fri, May 17, 2002 at 02:51:57PM -0500, Wayne.Brown@altec.com wrote:
 > Personally, I wish that the only changes anybody made were to the kernel itself
 > (new drivers added, existing performance improved, etc.) and that all the
 > supporting tools and utilities just could be left alone.  I know that's not
 > going to happen, but anything that slows down changes in those extraneous things
 > is fine with me.  I'd be perfectly happy if *years* from now I was compiling
 > Linux 45.10.12 with the same kbuild, CML, gcc and everything else that I'm using
 > right now.

Compare and contrast..

-rw-r--r--    1 davej    users     31426560 Jan  9  2001 linux-2.0.39.tar
-rw-r--r--    1 davej    users     85442560 Nov  6  2001 linux-2.2.20.tar
-rw-r--r--    1 davej    users    131727360 Feb 25 20:15 linux-2.4.18.tar
-rw-r--r--    1 davej    users    152524800 May 10 00:11 linux-2.5.15.tar

Spot the pattern? Exponential growth. not only that, but for the most
part, the build system is the same across all of these. If we continue
growing at the current rate without doing something about the build
process, we're all going to be needing 8-way Opterons with several
GB of memory to get any work done.

If kbuild2.5 is faster, and produces the same end result (or better
still, more accurate builds), there's no valid reason to ignore it
that I can see.

    Dave.
-- 
| Dave Jones.        http://www.codemonkey.org.uk
| SuSE Labs

  reply	other threads:[~2002-05-17 20:09 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 57+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2002-05-17 19:51 kbuild 2.5 is ready for inclusion in the 2.5 kernel - take 3 Wayne.Brown
2002-05-17 20:09 ` Dave Jones [this message]
2002-05-17 20:25   ` Diego Calleja
2002-05-18 13:15 ` Paul P Komkoff Jr
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2002-05-19 10:26 Mike Galbraith
2002-05-18 10:25 Mike Galbraith
2002-05-18 17:32 ` Wayne.Brown
2002-05-18 18:11   ` Tomas Szepe
2002-05-18 21:15   ` DervishD
2002-05-20  4:31   ` Mike Fedyk
2002-05-20  5:09     ` Albert D. Cahalan
2002-05-20  5:18       ` Keith Owens
2002-05-20 14:29       ` Juan Quintela
2002-05-20  5:11     ` Keith Owens
2002-05-18  6:05 Wayne.Brown
2002-05-18 16:50 ` John Weber
2002-05-18  5:09 Wayne.Brown
2002-05-18  5:23 ` David Lang
2002-05-18 13:11 ` Diego Calleja
2002-05-17 22:59 Wayne.Brown
2002-05-17 23:14 ` Robert Love
2002-05-18  4:01 ` Horst von Brand
2002-05-18 12:57 ` Diego Calleja
2002-05-17 20:53 Wayne.Brown
2002-05-17 21:14 ` Andrew Morton
2002-05-17 21:42   ` William Lee Irwin III
2002-05-17 22:16     ` Kai Germaschewski
2002-05-17 22:34       ` William Lee Irwin III
2002-05-17 22:40         ` Larry McVoy
2002-05-18  0:41       ` Oliver Xymoron
2002-05-17 22:09 ` Nicolas Pitre
2002-05-18  0:38 ` Oliver Xymoron
2002-05-17 14:56 James Bottomley
2002-05-17 14:21 Wayne.Brown
2002-05-17 17:37 ` Adam Kropelin
2002-05-17 18:00   ` Robert Love
2002-05-16 22:42 Keith Owens
2002-05-17  0:10 ` Nicolas Pitre
2002-05-17  3:30   ` Tomas Szepe
2002-05-17  7:55     ` Russell King
2002-05-17  8:42     ` Miles Lane
2002-05-17 13:11       ` Dave Jones
2002-05-17 13:09     ` Denis Vlasenko
2002-05-17  8:17       ` Tomas Szepe
2002-05-17 13:39         ` Denis Vlasenko
2002-05-17  1:50 ` jeff millar
2002-05-17  2:04   ` Keith Owens
2002-05-17  2:26   ` Dave Jones
2002-05-17  7:11 ` Kenneth Johansson
2002-05-17 15:13   ` Nicolas Pitre
2002-05-17 15:19     ` Tomas Szepe
2002-05-17 15:42       ` Nicolas Pitre
2002-05-18  1:39         ` Keith Owens
2002-05-18  2:11           ` Nicolas Pitre
2002-05-18  2:19             ` Keith Owens
2002-05-17 18:19 ` Diego Calleja
2002-05-19 15:46 ` Pavel Machek

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