From: Dave Jones <davej@suse.de>
To: Andrea Arcangeli <andrea@suse.de>
Cc: Keith Owens <kaos@ocs.com.au>, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: kbuild 2.5 is ready for inclusion in the 2.5 kernel
Date: Sat, 18 May 2002 03:33:58 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20020518033358.A15417@suse.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Pine.GSO.4.44.0205030131470.11340-100000@epic7.Stanford.EDU> <11840.1020427634@ocs3.intra.ocs.com.au> <20020518011410.GD29509@dualathlon.random>
On Sat, May 18, 2002 at 03:14:10AM +0200, Andrea Arcangeli wrote:
> you're right if we need a make clean it's because the buildsystem is
> broken. However one thing that happens all the time to me, is that I
> change an header like mm.h or sched.h and ~everything needs to be
> rebuilt then.
Yep. Our includes dependancies suck bigtime. Some work has been
done already in untangling the mess, but a lot more needs to be
done to really make a real difference.
Whats scary is that if you look at the dependancy graphs[1] of the
'best of the worst' includes, it's the same ugly mess we've
come to know and expect, and yet this is *after* some cleanups
already happened.
The 'dump everything into sched.h and friends' things really
needs splitting up some more, but it's a lot of work, and I don't
think kbuild2.5 alone is going to make that much difference
in this regard. Pulling out the component parts of the bigger
includes is probably the only way around this.
A driver that needs 'jiffies' defined should not be
inadvertantly pulling in a hundred include files.
Dave.
[1] ftp://ftp.kernel.org/pub/linux/kernel/people/davej/misc/graphs/
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Thread overview: 98+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2002-05-01 14:23 kbuild 2.5 is ready for inclusion in the 2.5 kernel Keith Owens
2002-05-02 15:17 ` Denis Vlasenko
2002-05-02 10:38 ` tomas szepe
2002-05-02 12:21 ` Keith Owens
2002-05-02 12:49 ` Martin Dalecki
2002-05-02 14:26 ` Alan Cox
2002-05-02 13:32 ` Martin Dalecki
2002-05-02 14:54 ` Kai Germaschewski
2002-05-02 15:17 ` Alan Cox
2002-05-05 9:43 ` Mike Fedyk
2002-05-05 10:16 ` Keith Owens
2002-05-02 15:21 ` Arjan van de Ven
2002-05-02 15:59 ` Richard Gooch
2002-05-02 15:36 ` Martin Dalecki
2002-05-02 17:15 ` Alan Cox
2002-05-02 16:30 ` Martin Dalecki
2002-05-02 18:20 ` Alan Cox
2002-05-02 17:25 ` Arjan van de Ven
2002-05-02 16:53 ` Martin Dalecki
2002-05-02 17:48 ` David S. Miller
2002-05-02 17:42 ` Martin Dalecki
2002-05-02 19:11 ` Alan Cox
2002-05-02 18:22 ` Martin Dalecki
2002-05-02 18:49 ` David S. Miller
2002-05-02 18:33 ` Alan Cox
2002-05-02 14:24 ` Kai Germaschewski
2002-05-02 15:18 ` David Woodhouse
2002-05-02 15:40 ` Kai Germaschewski
2002-05-02 23:40 ` Keith Owens
2002-05-02 23:25 ` Martin Dalecki
2002-05-03 14:48 ` Kai Germaschewski
2002-05-03 15:45 ` Keith Owens
2002-05-02 15:19 ` Alan Cox
2002-05-02 22:57 ` Pavel Machek
2002-05-03 8:33 ` Vikram
2002-05-03 12:07 ` Keith Owens
2002-05-18 1:14 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2002-05-18 1:33 ` Dave Jones [this message]
2002-05-18 3:06 ` Oliver Xymoron
2002-05-18 12:28 ` [PATCH] move jiffies from sched.h to it's own jiffies.h Tim Schmielau
2002-05-19 22:33 ` Tim Schmielau
2002-05-20 2:32 ` Rusty Russell
2002-05-18 2:12 ` kbuild 2.5 is ready for inclusion in the 2.5 kernel Gerhard Mack
2002-05-18 2:13 ` Keith Owens
2002-05-18 2:30 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2002-05-20 2:38 ` Miles Bader
2002-05-02 21:34 ` tomas szepe
2002-05-02 21:42 ` Dave Jones
2002-05-03 1:19 ` John Covici
2002-05-03 1:33 ` Keith Owens
2002-05-03 1:39 ` tomas szepe
2002-05-03 2:31 ` Alexander Viro
2002-05-03 3:21 ` Davide Libenzi
2002-05-02 21:42 ` Alexander Viro
2002-05-02 23:25 ` tomas szepe
2002-05-03 21:05 ` Mark H. Wood
2002-05-04 13:58 ` Kurt Wall
2002-05-06 1:54 ` Mike Fedyk
2002-05-02 22:54 ` Pavel Machek
2002-05-03 9:00 ` Keith Owens
2002-05-03 4:17 ` Randy.Dunlap
2002-05-03 5:02 ` Keith Owens
2002-05-03 6:32 ` Randy.Dunlap
2002-05-03 10:06 ` Gerd Knorr
2002-05-03 10:42 ` Keith Owens
2002-05-03 12:05 ` Gerd Knorr
2002-05-03 13:31 ` Keith Owens
2002-05-04 6:44 ` Paul Mackerras
2002-05-04 8:03 ` Paul Mackerras
2002-05-06 0:42 ` Mike Fedyk
2002-05-06 4:07 ` Paul Mackerras
2002-05-04 9:03 ` Keith Owens
2002-05-04 9:38 ` Russell King
2002-05-04 10:33 ` Paul Mackerras
2002-05-04 11:49 ` Keith Owens
2002-05-06 8:40 ` Gerd Knorr
2002-05-07 4:14 ` Keith Owens
2002-05-04 15:30 ` Richard Gooch
2002-05-05 17:23 ` Urban Widmark
2002-05-05 23:36 ` Keith Owens
2002-05-06 11:33 ` Urban Widmark
2002-05-06 23:54 ` Keith Owens
2002-05-06 10:54 ` Alex Riesen
2002-05-08 2:54 ` Keith Owens
2002-05-08 17:25 ` Alex Riesen
2002-05-09 0:10 ` Keith Owens
2002-05-09 0:55 ` Daniel Jacobowitz
2002-05-09 1:44 ` Keith Owens
-- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2002-05-05 16:42 Dan Kegel
2002-05-05 23:44 ` Keith Owens
2002-05-06 0:02 ` Dan Kegel
2002-05-06 0:40 ` Keith Owens
2002-05-06 15:38 ` Alan Cox
2002-05-06 15:33 ` Tomas Szepe
[not found] <cs.lists.linux-kernel/18740.1020729269@ocs3.intra.ocs.com.au>
2002-05-07 23:48 ` Ion Badulescu
2002-05-08 0:10 ` Keith Owens
2002-05-08 0:37 ` Alan Cox
2002-05-08 0:34 ` Keith Owens
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