From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id ; Sat, 18 May 2002 09:15:47 -0400 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id ; Sat, 18 May 2002 09:15:46 -0400 Received: from stingr.net ([212.193.32.15]:44725 "EHLO hq.stingr.net") by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id ; Sat, 18 May 2002 09:15:46 -0400 Date: Sat, 18 May 2002 17:15:36 +0400 From: Paul P Komkoff Jr To: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Subject: Re: kbuild 2.5 is ready for inclusion in the 2.5 kernel - take 3 Message-ID: <20020518131536.GL21357@stingr.net> Mail-Followup-To: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org In-Reply-To: <86256BBC.006D500D.00@smtpnotes.altec.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=koi8-r Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Agent Tanya X-Mailer: Roxio Easy CD Creator 5.0 X-RealName: Stingray Greatest Jr Organization: Bedleham International Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Replying to Wayne.Brown@altec.com: > Personally, I wish that the only changes anybody made were to the kernel itself > (new drivers added, existing performance improved, etc.) and that all the > supporting tools and utilities just could be left alone. I know that's not > going to happen, but anything that slows down changes in those extraneous things > is fine with me. I'd be perfectly happy if *years* from now I was compiling > Linux 45.10.12 with the same kbuild, CML, gcc and everything else that I'm using > right now. It seems like you stuck with existing toys forever, which can somewhat indicate that your learning factor is extremely low History knows many applications of such behavior. In short, it stops improvements and breaks progress. And in a few words more, you can now compile linux 2.2.(something) with egcs (something), and you will be able to live in underground cave with stoneage tools *years* from now too. -- Paul P 'Stingray' Komkoff 'Greatest' Jr // (icq)23200764 // (irc)Spacebar PPKJ1-RIPE // (smtp)i@stingr.net // (http)stingr.net // (pgp)0xA4B4ECA4