Re: kbuild 2.5 is ready for inclusion in the 2.5 kernel - take 3

[Tomas Szepe <szepe@pinerecords.com>]

> Satisfied now?  Or did you mean I should have installed kbuild2.5 and found out
> for myself?  If I had any interest in using it that would be reasonable.  But
> all I wanted was to find out how bad things are going to be after I eventually
> get stuck with it.

'get stuck' is really some good wording here I have to say.

> This is my last post on this subject.  There doesn't seem to be anyone here who
> understands the concept of being satisfied with a tool and seeing no need to
> improve it.

The point of most of the ones who angrily replied to your original post was,
I believe, that you're obviously not in a position to make remarks about the
quality of the new build system.

Sorry, but the opinion of someone who complains about having to switch to
"make install" instead of "make oldconfig dep clean bzImage modules" (the
new command even being much simpler for chrissakes) and admits that that's
the only problem they can see, isn't of much value here.

> If I'm not satisfied with something, I'll expend large amounts of time,
> effort and money to achieve even trivial improvements.  But if I *am*
> satisfied with something, then I don't want to spend even a trivial amount
> of effort trying to achieve "improvements" that I don't need.

Just a side note:
Why exactly are you upgrading your kernel every time a new release is out,
when you don't have a need to do so? I honestly doubt you're waiting for
a particular fix.

> I don't need the new kbuild.  I don't want the new kbuild.  But I'm going to be
> stuck with it, and there's nothing I can do to stop it.  So for those of you who
> DO want it, why is it such a burden to hear that not everyone thinks the way you
> do?

Man, no offense meant here, but has it ever occurred to you that the clock won't ever
stop and one has to keep learning new things every day? From what you have written
it seems you can be in serious trouble each time your favorite grocery store closes
down and you have to go round one more corner to get your bread and butter.


Tomas