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From: William Lee Irwin III <wli@holomorphy.com>
To: Andrew Morton <akpm@zip.com.au>
Cc: Giuliano Pochini <pochini@shiny.it>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, "chen,
	xiangping" <chen_xiangping@emc.com>
Subject: Re: Poor read performance when sequential write presents
Date: Fri, 24 May 2002 02:46:06 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20020524094606.GH14918@holomorphy.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <3CED4843.2783B568@zip.com.au> <XFMail.20020524105942.pochini@shiny.it> <3CEE0758.27110CAD@zip.com.au>

On Fri, May 24, 2002 at 02:26:48AM -0700, Andrew Morton wrote:
> Oh absolutely.   That's the reason why 2.4 is beating 2.5 at tiobench with
> more than one thread.  2.5 is alternating fairly between threads and 2.4
> is not.  So 2.4 seeks less.

In one sense or another some sort of graceful transition to unfair
behavior could be considered a kind of thrashing control; how meaningful
that is in the context of disk I/O is a question I can't answer directly,
though. Do you have any comments on this potential strategic unfairness?


On Fri, May 24, 2002 at 02:26:48AM -0700, Andrew Morton wrote:
> I've been testing this extensively on 2.5 + multipage BIO I/O and when you
> increase readahead from 32 pages (two BIOs) to 64 pages (4 BIOs), 2.5 goes
> from perfect to horrid - each threads grabs the disk head and performs many,
> many megabytes of read before any other thread gets a share.  Net effect is
> that the tiobench numbers are great, but any operation which involves
> reading disk has 30 or 60 second latencies.
> Interestingly, it seems specific to IDE.  SCSI behaves well.
> I have tons of traces and debug code - I'll bug Jens about this in a week or
> so.

What kinds of phenomena appear to be associated with IDE's latencies?
I recall some comments from prior IDE maintainers on poor interactions
between generic disk I/O layers and IDE drivers, particularly with
respect to small transactions being given to the drivers to perform.
Are these comments still relevant, or is this of a different nature?


Cheers,
Bill

  reply	other threads:[~2002-05-24  9:46 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 12+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2002-05-23 14:20 Poor read performance when sequential write presents chen, xiangping
2002-05-23 19:51 ` Andrew Morton
2002-05-24  8:59   ` Giuliano Pochini
2002-05-24  9:26     ` Andrew Morton
2002-05-24  9:46       ` William Lee Irwin III [this message]
2002-05-24 10:04         ` Andrew Morton
2002-05-27  8:06           ` Jens Axboe
2002-05-27  8:22             ` Andrew Morton
2002-05-27  8:54               ` Jens Axboe
2002-05-27  9:35                 ` Andrew Morton
2002-05-28  9:25                   ` Jens Axboe
2002-05-28  9:36                     ` Jens Axboe

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