From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id ; Sat, 25 May 2002 12:25:57 -0400 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id ; Sat, 25 May 2002 12:25:56 -0400 Received: from bitmover.com ([192.132.92.2]:33490 "EHLO bitmover.com") by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id ; Sat, 25 May 2002 12:25:56 -0400 Date: Sat, 25 May 2002 09:25:57 -0700 From: Larry McVoy To: Karim Yaghmour Cc: Larry McVoy , Thunder from the hill , Linus Torvalds , Andrea Arcangeli , Dan Kegel , Andrew Morton , Hugh Dickins , Christoph Rohland , Jens Axboe , linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Subject: Re: patent on O_ATOMICLOOKUP [Re: [PATCH] loopable tmpfs (2.4.17)] Message-ID: <20020525092557.K28795@work.bitmover.com> Mail-Followup-To: Larry McVoy , Karim Yaghmour , Larry McVoy , Thunder from the hill , Linus Torvalds , Andrea Arcangeli , Dan Kegel , Andrew Morton , Hugh Dickins , Christoph Rohland , Jens Axboe , linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org In-Reply-To: <20020524223950.D22643@work.bitmover.com> <20020525091444.H28795@work.bitmover.com> <3CEFB9C6.FC21D7CB@opersys.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5.1i Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org On Sat, May 25, 2002 at 12:20:22PM -0400, Karim Yaghmour wrote: > > Larry McVoy wrote: > > 4. Contact FSMlabs, ask about licensing costs, compare to #3 and go with > > #4 if it makes sense. > > Many people have said this before and I will say it again: Linux is > fine as an open-source/free-software rtos, but as a non-free rtos it > has no chance in front of the competition. > > You can dimiss those who haven't chosen #4 as much as you want and > find all the reasons to justify your dismissal. It remains that the > embedded/rt market is closed to Linux because of the current situation. Hmm, then why did Lineo license the patent? Why is FSMlabs still in business? I don't buy your assertions for one second without some strong data to back them up. Just saying something doesn't make it so, show me the data. -- --- Larry McVoy lm at bitmover.com http://www.bitmover.com/lm