From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id ; Sun, 26 May 2002 14:29:53 -0400 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id ; Sun, 26 May 2002 14:29:52 -0400 Received: from bitmover.com ([192.132.92.2]:32727 "EHLO bitmover.com") by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id ; Sun, 26 May 2002 14:29:50 -0400 Date: Sun, 26 May 2002 11:29:51 -0700 From: Larry McVoy To: Karim Yaghmour Cc: yodaiken@fsmlabs.com, Roman Zippel , David Woodhouse , Larry McVoy , "Albert D. Cahalan" , Linus Torvalds , Wolfgang Denk , linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Subject: Re: patent on O_ATOMICLOOKUP [Re: [PATCH] loopable tmpfs (2.4.17)] Message-ID: <20020526112951.B30610@work.bitmover.com> Mail-Followup-To: Larry McVoy , Karim Yaghmour , yodaiken@fsmlabs.com, Roman Zippel , David Woodhouse , Larry McVoy , "Albert D. Cahalan" , Linus Torvalds , Wolfgang Denk , linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org In-Reply-To: <20020526082142.C18843@hq.fsmlabs.com> <20020526105506.A20002@hq.fsmlabs.com> <3CF122CA.EFE2D328@opersys.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5.1i Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Around and around we go - I'm seeing why Victor is sick of this. A few words of advice and then I hope we're done with this thread because I don't know what else can be said which hasn't been said before. On Sun, May 26, 2002 at 02:00:42PM -0400, Karim Yaghmour wrote: > What is "use of the method"? Ask a lawyer. > "Do I need to purchase a license from FSMLabs if I write an RTAI > rt applications?" Ask a lawyer. > What is the "user mode" bit? Does your statement apply to the RTAI hard-rt > user-space applications which have been described earlier on this list? Ask a lawyer. > > Similarly, I doubt > > as one can write a non-GPL module for gcc, run it under NetBSD as a BSD > > kernel module and claim benefit of the BSD License to close it. > > I don't think that such a comparison can be applied. If you want to know for sure, hire a lawyer. > So too should your clients be very worried as to the code you are selling > them. Any one of the current RTAI developers can now sue you and your > clients for code theft. Sounds like you need a lawyer. > RTAI developers may have mislabeled some licenses, but they sure as hell > don't sell closed-source versions of the resulting code. Snort. "may have mislabeled". Snort. > As I was telling Larry earlier. The software industry as we know it is an > endangered species. Tell that to Microsoft, watch them laugh. > BTW, you still haven't answered my questions. I read your whole posting carefully, a couple of times. You're basically asking for free legal advice from a party whom with you compete, may possibly sue, and/or may be sued by. Do you seriously expect answers or are you just posturing? Rhetorical question, please don't answer it. -- --- Larry McVoy lm at bitmover.com http://www.bitmover.com/lm