From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id ; Sun, 26 May 2002 06:06:40 -0400 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id ; Sun, 26 May 2002 06:06:39 -0400 Received: from unthought.net ([212.97.129.24]:54180 "HELO mail.unthought.net") by vger.kernel.org with SMTP id ; Sun, 26 May 2002 06:06:39 -0400 Date: Sun, 26 May 2002 12:06:38 +0200 From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Jakob_=D8stergaard?= To: "David S. Miller" Cc: xavier.bestel@free.fr, dent@cosy.sbg.ac.at, alan@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk, tori@ringstrom.mine.nu, imipak@yahoo.com, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Subject: Re: Linux crypto? Message-ID: <20020526120638.B12646@unthought.net> Mail-Followup-To: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Jakob_=D8stergaard?= , "David S. Miller" , xavier.bestel@free.fr, dent@cosy.sbg.ac.at, alan@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk, tori@ringstrom.mine.nu, imipak@yahoo.com, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org In-Reply-To: <20020524.102137.04012600.davem@redhat.com> <1022276970.4174.153.camel@bip> <20020524.144305.88932392.davem@redhat.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit User-Agent: Mutt/1.2i Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org On Fri, May 24, 2002 at 02:43:05PM -0700, David S. Miller wrote: > From: Xavier Bestel > Date: 24 May 2002 23:49:29 +0200 > > Why ? You can make all edits you like, they just won't be folded back to > their tree. You can retrieve all their fixes, just if you have an > important change to do in their core, do it as free speech on their > public mailing list, do not provide a patch. > > I can't edit their code because effectively I could contaminate > their sources. Could there be issued a general license for export of the Linux kernel from the U.S. ? It seems that even though the politics/politicians may not be entirely up to par with reality, that there is also some understanding of the need to share and cooperate in development of a secure operating system kernel. Most notably, the NSA Secure Linux Project. While this doesn't include crypto, it includes a number of other technologies which are (like crypto) necessary for a secure environment, but (like crypto) not any magic secret technology that it would make sense to restrict exports on. Could someone from "inside" give an oppinion on this ? As far as I know, it should be possible to get a general license for the export of the Linux kernel (by some definition thereof). It works like this in my country too, and probably many others. If this could be done with the U.S. perhaps other countries with export/import controls would be more willing to negotiatiate similar deals. "First we take Manhattan, then we take Berlin" ;) -- ................................................................ : jakob@unthought.net : And I see the elder races, : :.........................: putrid forms of man : : Jakob Østergaard : See him rise and claim the earth, : : OZ9ABN : his downfall is at hand. : :.........................:............{Konkhra}...............: