From: "Theodore Ts'o" <tytso@mit.edu>
To: David Woodhouse <dwmw2@infradead.org>
Cc: Alan Cox <alan@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk>,
Benjamin LaHaise <bcrl@redhat.com>, jw schultz <jw@pegasys.ws>,
linux-kernel <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: wait queue process state
Date: Fri, 31 May 2002 15:05:39 -0400 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20020531190539.GA3965@think.thunk.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1022676201.9255.160.camel@irongate.swansea.linux.org.uk> <1022631707.4123.151.camel@irongate.swansea.linux.org.uk> <3CF2A0FB.8090507@um.edu.mt> <1022572663.12203.127.camel@pc-16.office.scali.no> <20020528160143.G885@pegasys.ws> <20020528190518.E21009@redhat.com> <2338.1022669938@redhat.com> <9160.1022673363@redhat.com>
On Wed, May 29, 2002 at 12:56:03PM +0100, David Woodhouse wrote:
>
> alan@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk said:
> > Given an infinite number of monkeys yes. The 'disk I/O is not
> > interruptible' assumption is buried in vast amounts of software. This
> > isnt a case of sorting out a few misbehaving applications, you can
> > start with some of the most basic unix programs like 'ed' and work
> > outwards.
>
> Still probably worth doing in the long term. In the short term, we could
> possibly have a sysctl or personality flag to disable it for the benefit of
> broken software. I'm in favour of just letting it break though, to be
> honest - it's _already_ possible to trigger the breakage in some
> circumstances and making it more reproducible is a _good_ thing.
If you really think this is important thing to do, I suggest you
create a kernel patch which returns a partial read/write whenever the
the size is even (and return an odd number of bytes), thus
guaranteeing that 50% of the time, any I/O appears to have been
interrupted.
Then run it on a system, and see what breaks. I wouldn't suggest
doing this on any system that you care about, though!
- Ted
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2002-05-31 19:06 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 13+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2002-05-27 21:11 wait queue process state Joseph Cordina
2002-05-27 15:49 ` William Lee Irwin III
2002-05-28 7:57 ` Terje Eggestad
2002-05-28 23:01 ` jw schultz
2002-05-28 23:05 ` Benjamin LaHaise
2002-05-29 0:21 ` Alan Cox
2002-05-29 10:58 ` David Woodhouse
2002-05-29 12:43 ` Alan Cox
2002-05-29 11:55 ` Roman Zippel
2002-05-29 13:29 ` Alan Cox
2002-05-29 11:56 ` David Woodhouse
2002-05-31 19:05 ` Theodore Ts'o [this message]
2002-05-29 11:25 ` Trond Myklebust
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