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From: Vojtech Pavlik <vojtech@suse.cz>
To: Brad Hards <bhards@bigpond.net.au>
Cc: Chris Faherty <rallymonkey@bellsouth.net>, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: Logitech Mouseman Dual Optical defaults to 400cpi
Date: Mon, 10 Jun 2002 23:26:37 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20020610232637.A4589@ucw.cz> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20020608165243Z317422-22020+923@vger.kernel.org> <200206091807.11524.bhards@bigpond.net.au> <20020609151922Z317623-22020+1197@vger.kernel.org> <200206101057.20259.bhards@bigpond.net.au>

On Mon, Jun 10, 2002 at 10:57:20AM +1000, Brad Hards wrote:
> On Mon, 10 Jun 2002 01:19, Chris Faherty wrote:
> > On Sunday 09 June 2002 04:07 am, Brad Hards wrote:
> > > Was that using Snoopy?
> >
> > I believe that's what it was called.  The program was sniffusb 0.13.  I had
> > problems get later versions to work.  Then I found a nice treatise on
> > interpreting the log:
> >
> > http://www.toth.demon.co.uk/usb/reverse-0.2.txt
> I'll have to check it out. There are a number of resources (including a nice 
> Perl script that gets rid of much of the verbosity).
> Later versions may be W2K, rather than for 98: 
> http://sourceforge.net/projects/usbsnoop/
> 
> > > Any objections to me taking this to 2.4 and 2.5?
> >
> > Feel free.  I wonder if MS Intellimouse 3.0 has the same resolution
> > problem. AFAIK they use the same sensor.
> Probably not, because only low end manufacturers use reference designs 
> directly. I have an intellimouse around here somewhere. Don't know anything 
> about it, because it wouldn't have occurred to me to read the manual or 
> install the windows drivers. Might have to check it out.

Intellimouse 1.0 uses Agilent HDNS-2000, 2.0 uses ADNS-2001, and 3.0
uses a chip made by SGS Thompson, under a secret contract with Microsoft
that has only 400 dpi, but up to one meter per second maximal tracking
speed.

> > > This could have been handled by a blacklist table quirk. Any reason why
> > > you chose to do it this way?
> >
> > How does the blacklist work?  Originally I wanted to put the setting in
> > mousedev but I wasn't sure how to access the usb_device from there.
> Basically we declare a quirk (in drivers/usb/hid.h)
> #define HID_QUIRK_LOGITECH_HIRES
> 
> and then associate the manufacturer and product IDs for the device with the 
> quirk in hid-core.c (in hid_blacklist[])
> { USB_VENDOR_ID_LOGITECH, USB_DEVICE_ID_LOGITECH_DOPTICAL, 
> HID_QUIRK_LOGITECH_HIRES },
> 
> And then use (hid->quirk & HID_QUIRK_LOGITECH_HIRES) as the test instead of 
> ((hid->dev->descriptor.idVendor == USB_VENDOR_ID_LOGITECH) &&
> (hid->dev->descriptor.idProduct == USB_DEVICE_ID_LOGITECH_DOPTICAL)) in the 
> routine you actually want to vary.
> 
> The advantage is really apparent when Logitech brings out another device with 
> different product ID (eg a different colour plastic) that has the same 
> firmware and needs the same change. Much easier to add to the (now badly 
> misnamed) blacklist than to add more and more conditions to the if().
> 
> I'll try for a patch later, that might make this a bit clearer.
> 
> Brad
> 
> 
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-- 
Vojtech Pavlik
SuSE Labs

  reply	other threads:[~2002-06-10 21:26 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 11+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2002-06-08 16:53 Logitech Mouseman Dual Optical defaults to 400cpi Chris Faherty
2002-06-09  0:25 ` Chris Faherty
2002-06-09  8:07   ` Brad Hards
2002-06-09 15:19     ` Chris Faherty
2002-06-10  0:57       ` Brad Hards
2002-06-10 21:26         ` Vojtech Pavlik [this message]
2002-06-11  4:52           ` Chris Faherty
     [not found]           ` <20020611045213.8B1FA59D354@kerberos.suse.cz>
2002-06-11  5:56             ` Vojtech Pavlik
2002-06-11  6:30               ` Chris Faherty
     [not found]               ` <20020611062940.8172959D354@kerberos.suse.cz>
2002-06-11  6:34                 ` Vojtech Pavlik
2002-06-12 19:22           ` Pavel Machek

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