From: "David S. Miller" <davem@redhat.com>
To: david-b@pacbell.net
Cc: roland@topspin.com, benh@kernel.crashing.org,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: PCI DMA to small buffers on cache-incoherent arch
Date: Wed, 12 Jun 2002 15:50:28 -0700 (PDT) [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20020612.155028.112077227.davem@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <3D079D44.4000701@pacbell.net>
From: David Brownell <david-b@pacbell.net>
Date: Wed, 12 Jun 2002 12:13:08 -0700
> In general I certainly support
> the idea of making the DMA mapping stuff device generic instead of
> tied to PCI.
PCI was a good place to start (focus ... :) but clearly it shouldn't
be the only bus architecture with such support. Note that there are
actually two related approaches in the DMA-mapping.txt APIs ... one is
DMA mapping, the other is "consistent memory". Both should be made
generic rather than PCI-specific, not just mapping APIs.
I tried to imply this, if I didn't it is my error.
The intention is that every interface in DMA-mapping.txt will have
a dev_* counterpart when we move away from pci_dev to the generic
device struct.
One idea I want people to avoid is that we end up trying to do DMA
operations from a USB generic device struct. This will lead to
multiple levels of indirection to do the PCI dma operation (USB device
--> USB bus --> PCI bus --> PCI bus DMA ops) and that will be ugly as
hell.
Based on the discussion, I think the answer for now is to go with
the (b) variant you had originally started with, using kmalloc for
the buffers. The __dma_buffer style macro didn't seem popular;
though I agree that it's not clear kmalloc() really solves it
today. (Given DaveM's SPARC example, the minimum size value it
returns would need to be 128 bytes ... which clearly isn't so.)
Let's ignore the sparc64 issue for now. It's really a red herring
because as Pavel mentioned I could just use the largest size.
In actuality the "sparc64 issue" was partially a straw-man. Sparc64
has none of the DMA alignment issues as the PCI controller provides
coherency of partial cacheline transfers, we just need to flush
pending writes and prefetched reads out of the PCI controllers around
non-consistent DMA transfers.
Franks a lot,
David S. Miller
davem@redhat.com
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2002-06-12 22:56 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 102+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2002-06-11 5:31 PCI DMA to small buffers on cache-incoherent arch David Brownell
2002-06-11 5:44 ` David S. Miller
2002-06-11 15:12 ` David Brownell
2002-06-11 15:44 ` Oliver Neukum
2002-06-12 3:25 ` David S. Miller
2002-06-11 17:33 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2002-06-12 9:42 ` David S. Miller
2002-06-12 14:14 ` David Brownell
2002-06-12 15:00 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2002-06-12 18:44 ` Roland Dreier
2002-06-12 19:13 ` David Brownell
2002-06-12 19:58 ` Oliver Neukum
2002-06-12 22:51 ` David S. Miller
2002-06-12 23:17 ` Oliver Neukum
2002-06-13 4:57 ` David Brownell
2002-06-12 22:46 ` David S. Miller
2002-06-13 5:13 ` David Brownell
2002-06-13 9:38 ` David S. Miller
2002-06-12 22:50 ` David S. Miller [this message]
2002-06-13 0:23 ` [PATCH] 2.4 add __dma_buffer alignment macro Roland Dreier
2002-06-13 1:07 ` David S. Miller
2002-06-13 1:19 ` Roland Dreier
2002-06-12 6:25 ` PCI DMA to small buffers on cache-incoherent arch David Brownell
2002-06-12 6:24 ` David S. Miller
2002-06-12 7:06 ` David Brownell
2002-06-12 9:22 ` David S. Miller
-- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2002-06-08 20:38 Roland Dreier
2002-06-08 13:58 ` Anton Blanchard
2002-06-09 0:52 ` Roland Dreier
2002-06-08 23:03 ` David S. Miller
2002-06-09 0:40 ` Roland Dreier
2002-06-09 0:53 ` David S. Miller
2002-06-09 1:26 ` Roland Dreier
2002-06-09 5:29 ` David S. Miller
2002-06-09 6:16 ` Roland Dreier
2002-06-10 16:03 ` Roland Dreier
2002-06-11 14:04 ` David Woodhouse
2002-06-09 6:45 ` Oliver Neukum
2002-06-10 4:24 ` David S. Miller
2002-06-10 10:00 ` Oliver Neukum
2002-06-10 10:24 ` David S. Miller
2002-06-09 9:51 ` Paul Mackerras
2002-06-09 10:54 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2002-06-10 4:27 ` David S. Miller
2002-06-10 15:59 ` Roland Dreier
2002-06-10 17:03 ` Tom Rini
2002-06-10 17:22 ` Oliver Neukum
2002-06-10 17:29 ` Tom Rini
2002-06-10 17:39 ` Oliver Neukum
2002-06-10 19:03 ` Roland Dreier
2002-06-10 19:14 ` Tom Rini
2002-06-10 19:21 ` Roland Dreier
2002-06-10 19:26 ` Tom Rini
2002-06-10 17:57 ` Russell King
2002-06-10 17:28 ` Roland Dreier
2002-06-10 18:07 ` William Jhun
2002-06-10 18:29 ` William Jhun
2002-06-10 18:33 ` Mark Zealey
2002-06-10 18:44 ` Oliver Neukum
2002-06-11 3:10 ` David S. Miller
2002-06-11 4:04 ` Roland Dreier
2002-06-11 4:16 ` Brad Hards
2002-06-11 4:24 ` Roland Dreier
2002-06-11 4:24 ` David S. Miller
2002-06-11 4:21 ` David S. Miller
2002-06-11 4:39 ` Roland Dreier
2002-06-11 4:38 ` David S. Miller
2002-06-11 6:23 ` Oliver Neukum
2002-06-11 6:38 ` David S. Miller
2002-06-11 7:38 ` Oliver Neukum
2002-06-11 7:36 ` David S. Miller
2002-06-11 7:43 ` David S. Miller
2002-06-11 8:07 ` Oliver Neukum
2002-06-11 8:15 ` David S. Miller
2002-06-11 12:06 ` Oliver Neukum
2002-06-11 12:04 ` David S. Miller
2002-06-11 14:23 ` Oliver Neukum
2002-06-14 4:14 ` David S. Miller
2002-06-11 18:26 ` Roland Dreier
2002-06-11 17:29 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2002-06-12 12:02 ` Oliver Neukum
2002-06-11 20:06 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2002-06-12 12:02 ` David S. Miller
2002-06-11 23:00 ` Thunder from the hill
2002-06-11 23:56 ` Roland Dreier
2002-06-12 0:09 ` Thunder from the hill
2002-06-11 15:57 ` William Jhun
2002-06-12 9:06 ` Pavel Machek
2002-06-12 20:16 ` David S. Miller
2002-06-12 11:47 ` David S. Miller
2002-06-12 12:08 ` Oliver Neukum
2002-06-14 4:41 ` David S. Miller
2002-06-12 16:09 ` William Jhun
2002-06-09 1:30 ` Albert D. Cahalan
2002-06-09 5:29 ` David S. Miller
2002-06-09 6:33 ` Albert D. Cahalan
2002-06-09 6:50 ` Oliver Neukum
2002-06-09 6:57 ` Albert D. Cahalan
2002-06-09 7:15 ` Oliver Neukum
2002-06-09 8:48 ` Russell King
2002-06-09 15:42 ` Albert D. Cahalan
2002-06-09 23:26 ` Oliver Neukum
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