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From: "Stephen C. Tweedie" <sct@redhat.com>
To: Alexander Viro <viro@math.psu.edu>
Cc: "Stephen C. Tweedie" <sct@redhat.com>,
	DervishD <raul@pleyades.net>,
	Linux-kernel <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	ext2-devel@lists.sourceforge.net
Subject: Re: Shrinking ext3 directories
Date: Wed, 19 Jun 2002 11:37:34 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20020619113734.D2658@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Pine.GSO.4.21.0206181812220.13571-100000@weyl.math.psu.edu>; from viro@math.psu.edu on Tue, Jun 18, 2002 at 06:18:49PM -0400

Hi,

On Tue, Jun 18, 2002 at 06:18:49PM -0400, Alexander Viro wrote:
 
> IOW, making sure that empty blocks in the end of directory get freed
> is a matter of 10-20 lines.  If you want such patch - just tell, it's
> half an hour of work...

It's certainly easier at the tail, but with htree we may have
genuinely enormous directories and being able to hole-punch arbitrary
coalesced blocks could be a huge win.  Also, doing the coalescing
block by block is likely to be far easier for ext3 than truncating
the directory arbitrarily back in one go.  

Chopping a large directory at once brings back the truncate()
nightmare of having to make an unbounded disk operation seem atomic,
even if it has to get split over multiple transactions.  Incremental
coalescing should allow us to know in advance how many disk blocks we
might end up touching for the operation, so we can guarantee to do it
in one transaction.

Cheers,
 Stephen


  parent reply	other threads:[~2002-06-19 10:37 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 42+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2002-06-18 16:08 Shrinking ext3 directories DervishD
2002-06-18 16:10 ` Austin Gonyou
2002-06-18 16:39   ` Andreas Dilger
2002-06-18 19:39     ` DervishD
2002-06-18 19:34   ` DervishD
2002-06-18 16:21 ` Padraig Brady
2002-06-18 16:54   ` David Lang
2002-06-18 19:35   ` DervishD
2002-06-18 21:50 ` Stephen C. Tweedie
2002-06-18 22:18   ` Alexander Viro
2002-06-19  9:38     ` DervishD
2002-06-19 10:37     ` Stephen C. Tweedie [this message]
2002-06-19 17:03       ` [Ext2-devel] " Christopher Li
2002-06-19 20:10         ` Stephen C. Tweedie
2002-06-19 20:34           ` Stephen C. Tweedie
2002-06-19 20:13         ` Andrew Morton
2002-06-19 22:43           ` Stephen C. Tweedie
2002-06-19 23:54             ` Stephen C. Tweedie
2002-06-21  3:28               ` Daniel Phillips
2002-06-21  7:03                 ` Helge Hafting
2002-06-21 14:02                   ` Daniel Phillips
2002-06-24  7:12                     ` Helge Hafting
2002-06-21 16:23                   ` Daniel Phillips
2002-06-21 15:06                 ` Stephen C. Tweedie
2002-07-04  4:48                   ` Daniel Phillips
2002-07-04 14:15                     ` jlnance
2002-07-05  2:11                       ` Daniel Phillips
2002-06-22  5:53                 ` Andreas Dilger
2002-06-22 20:59                   ` Daniel Phillips
2002-06-23  0:01                     ` Daniel Phillips
2002-06-23  7:57                     ` Daniel Phillips
2002-06-19 22:49         ` Daniel Phillips
2002-06-20  0:24           ` Andreas Dilger
2002-06-20  9:34           ` Stephen C. Tweedie
2002-06-20 10:18             ` Andreas Dilger
2002-06-20 13:45               ` Daniel Phillips
2002-06-21 14:54                 ` Ville Herva
2002-06-21 15:08                   ` Stephen C. Tweedie
2002-06-21 15:38                     ` Ville Herva
2002-06-21 16:15                       ` Stephen C. Tweedie
2002-06-21 18:44                         ` Ville Herva
2002-06-20 16:26               ` Bill Davidsen

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