From: Willy TARREAU <willy@w.ods.org>
To: Denis Vlasenko <vda@port.imtp.ilyichevsk.odessa.ua>
Cc: willy tarreau <wtarreau@yahoo.fr>,
Willy TARREAU <willy@w.ods.org>,
willy@meta-x.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
Ronald.Wahl@informatik.tu-chemnitz.de
Subject: Re: [ANNOUNCE] CMOV emulation for 2.4.19-rc1
Date: Tue, 2 Jul 2002 22:00:05 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20020702200005.GA29557@pcw.home.local> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <200207011316.g61DGxT18808@Port.imtp.ilyichevsk.odessa.ua>
> Can you code up a "dummy" emulator (which just ignores
> any invalid opcode by doing eip+=3) and compare trap times
> of your emulator and dummy one for, say, CMOVC AL,AL?
> (with carry flag cleared)
The dummy emulator costs exactly 296 cycles (stable) on my
k6-2/450. It only adds 3 to eip then returns.
To check this, I compared 1 million iteriations of 10
consecutive cmove %eax,%eax with as much lea 0(%eax),%eax
(1 cycle, RAW dependancy, not parallelizable), and the
difference was exactly 660 ns/inst (297 cycles).
That said, I agree with you that it's worth optimizing a
bit, at least to stay closer to 300 cycles than to 450.
But that won't make emulated machines fast anyway.
One interesting note: I tested the prog on a VIA C3/533
Mhz. One native cmove %eax,%eax costs 56 cycles here ! (at
first, I even thought it was emulated). It's a shame to see
how these instructions have been implemented. May be they
flush the pipelines, write-backs, ... before the instruction.
BTW, cmov isn't reported in cpu_flags, perhaps to discourage
progs from using it ;-)
I will recode the stuff, and add two preventive messages:
- at boot time : "warning: this kernel may emulate unsupported instructions. If you
find it slow, please do dmesg."
- at first emulation : "trap caught for instruction XXX, program XXX."
Cheers,
Willy
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2002-07-02 19:57 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 16+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2002-06-30 4:39 [ANNOUNCE] CMOV emulation for 2.4.19-rc1 Willy TARREAU
2002-07-01 13:58 ` Denis Vlasenko
2002-07-01 13:03 ` willy tarreau
2002-07-01 15:55 ` Bill Davidsen
2002-07-02 10:46 ` Denis Vlasenko
2002-07-02 6:31 ` willy tarreau
2002-07-02 12:03 ` Denis Vlasenko
2002-07-01 16:25 ` Gabriel Paubert
2002-07-01 17:08 ` willy tarreau
2002-07-01 18:16 ` Denis Vlasenko
2002-07-01 13:25 ` willy tarreau
2002-07-02 20:00 ` Willy TARREAU [this message]
2002-07-03 0:36 ` jw schultz
2002-07-18 19:15 ` Robert de Bath
2002-07-18 20:44 ` jw schultz
2002-07-01 18:25 ` Denis Vlasenko
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