From: Daniel Mose <imcol@unicyclist.com>
To: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Cc: lixmeta@unicyclist.com
Subject: Re: simple handling of module removals Re: [OKS] Module removal
Date: Mon, 8 Jul 2002 03:09:26 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20020708030532.A8799@unicyclist.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <9171.1026053813@ocs3.intra.ocs.com.au>
Keith Owens wrote:
> On Fri, 5 Jul 2002 15:48:17 +0200,
> Pavel Machek <pavel@ucw.cz> wrote:
> >Keith Owens wrote
> >> Modules can run their own kernel threads. When the module shuts down
> >> it terminates the threads but we must wait until the process entries
> >> for the threads have been reaped. If you are not careful, the zombie
> >> clean up code can refer to the module that no longer exists. You must
> >> not freeze any threads that belong to the module.
I am just out to share a possible angle. -all though not really a programmer.
Can one module replace another -running- twin-module without having to hand-
shake with the kernel? -and without freezing ? (transparently)
If obvious no - no need to read further.
Otherwhise, there might be a possibility to create a shut-down module out of
the existing module it self?
In this case it could probably be a smooth solution to ask the module creator.
(if known, and available) if he/she would be able to make this modification
on the fly, as he/she probably knows the most about how the signals operate.
That is to strip down the existing loadable module into sort of a dummy.
Of course this won't work if hazardous removal issues are shared among all or
most of the existing kernel modules.
An apology for taking up time and bandwith. But rmmod is such a neat command
to have a round.
/Daniel Mose
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2002-07-08 1:03 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 57+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2002-07-01 17:48 [OKS] Module removal Bill Davidsen
2002-07-01 18:35 ` Richard B. Johnson
2002-07-01 18:42 ` Jose Luis Domingo Lopez
2002-07-01 18:45 ` Shawn
2002-07-01 19:57 ` Diego Calleja
2002-07-01 20:03 ` Diego Calleja
2002-07-01 22:20 ` Jose Luis Domingo Lopez
2002-07-01 22:56 ` Ryan Anderson
2002-07-02 11:37 ` Stephen C. Tweedie
2002-07-02 12:04 ` Richard B. Johnson
2002-07-02 13:13 ` jlnance
2002-07-03 3:48 ` simple handling of module removals " Pavel Machek
2002-07-03 17:25 ` Richard B. Johnson
2002-07-03 23:46 ` Daniel Phillips
2002-07-08 12:21 ` Richard B. Johnson
2002-07-08 12:41 ` Thunder from the hill
2002-07-08 12:57 ` Richard B. Johnson
2002-07-08 13:58 ` Thunder from the hill
2002-07-08 15:48 ` Daniel Gryniewicz
2002-07-08 17:23 ` Thunder from the hill
2002-07-08 13:06 ` Keith Owens
2002-07-08 13:15 ` Keith Owens
2002-07-03 23:48 ` Daniel Phillips
2002-07-05 9:40 ` Stephen Tweedie
2002-07-06 19:40 ` Daniel Phillips
2002-07-06 19:47 ` Pavel Machek
2002-07-04 1:18 ` Keith Owens
2002-07-04 1:53 ` Andrew Morton
2002-07-04 4:00 ` Keith Owens
2002-07-04 2:25 ` Brian Gerst
2002-07-04 3:54 ` David Gibson
2002-07-04 4:08 ` Keith Owens
2002-07-04 15:02 ` Brian Gerst
2002-07-04 19:18 ` Werner Almesberger
2002-07-05 13:48 ` Pavel Machek
2002-07-07 14:56 ` Keith Owens
2002-07-07 22:36 ` Roman Zippel
2002-07-08 1:09 ` Daniel Mose [this message]
2002-07-09 17:07 ` Daniel Mose
2002-07-08 18:13 ` Pavel Machek
2002-07-08 22:43 ` Keith Owens
2002-07-09 14:00 ` Pavel Machek
2002-07-02 15:20 ` Bill Davidsen
2002-07-02 15:53 ` Jonathan Corbet
2002-07-02 16:07 ` Oliver Neukum
2002-07-02 17:48 ` Tom Rini
2002-07-02 18:10 ` Oliver Neukum
2002-07-02 21:50 ` Ryan Anderson
2002-07-03 22:26 ` Diego Calleja
2002-07-04 0:00 ` Keith Owens
2002-07-04 8:04 ` Helge Hafting
2002-07-02 16:08 ` Werner Almesberger
[not found] ` <Pine.LNX.3.95.1020702075957.24872A-100000@chaos.analogic.c om>
2002-07-04 8:36 ` Mike Galbraith
2002-07-03 0:09 ` Vojtech Pavlik
2002-07-12 21:51 ` David Lang
[not found] <0C01A29FBAE24448A792F5C68F5EA47D2B0A8A@nasdaq.ms.ensim.com>
2002-07-04 0:29 ` simple handling of module removals " pmenage
2002-07-04 0:59 ` Daniel Phillips
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