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From: jbradford@dial.pipex.com
To: paul@paulbristow.net (Paul Bristow)
Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: IDE/ATAPI in 2.5
Date: Sun, 14 Jul 2002 10:11:38 +0100 (BST)	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <200207140911.KAA00157@darkstar.example.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <3D313412.1030102@paulbristow.net> from "Paul Bristow" at Jul 14, 2002 10:19:30 AM

> I much prefer Linus's suggestion of agreeing on the top level API.  I 
> would like to see disks, and removeable media having a single unified 
> namespace and set of ioctls so that the different user-space programs 
> don't need to worry about if they are dealing with a SCSI, PPA, 
> ATAPI-ish, USB, 1394 or whatever comes next drive.  Is that work? yes, 
> but it's also about communication and keeping things in the appropriate 
> place.  Let me hide the horrible things ide-floppy has to do from 
> user-space, and if that means I/we have to completely re-write the 
> ioctls etc so be it.  

I totally agree, why pick an arbitrary interface, and call it the 'standard', you might as well define your own standard, which suits the needs of supporting all future interfaces, (in the near future, anyway).

John.

  reply	other threads:[~2002-07-14  9:03 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 204+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2002-07-12  0:27 IDE/ATAPI in 2.5 H. Peter Anvin
2002-07-12  0:37 ` Bartlomiej Zolnierkiewicz
2002-07-12  1:00 ` Alan Cox
2002-07-12  1:23   ` Andre Hedrick
2002-07-12  5:03   ` H. Peter Anvin
2002-07-12  4:13 ` Erik Andersen
2002-07-12  4:17   ` H. Peter Anvin
2002-07-12  4:44     ` Erik Andersen
2002-07-12  4:46       ` H. Peter Anvin
2002-07-12  5:03         ` Andre Hedrick
2002-07-12  5:11           ` H. Peter Anvin
2002-07-12 13:15             ` Alan Cox
2002-07-15 10:24             ` Eric W. Biederman
2002-07-16  5:28               ` H. Peter Anvin
2002-07-12 12:11 ` Martin Dalecki
2002-07-12 12:51   ` Thunder from the hill
2002-07-12 14:17     ` Bartlomiej Zolnierkiewicz
2002-07-12 14:29       ` Martin Dalecki
2002-07-12 14:41         ` Jens Axboe
2002-07-12 15:00           ` Martin Dalecki
2002-07-12 15:05             ` Jens Axboe
2002-07-12 15:41           ` Andre Hedrick
2002-07-12 15:35         ` Alan Cox
2002-07-14  8:19         ` Paul Bristow
2002-07-14  9:11           ` jbradford [this message]
2002-07-14  9:16           ` Matthew D. Pitts
2002-07-14 14:04           ` Martin Dalecki
2002-07-14 16:56             ` Thunder from the hill
2002-07-12 15:26     ` Andre Hedrick
2002-07-12 13:22   ` Alan Cox
2002-07-12 13:07     ` Tomas Szepe
2002-07-12 14:06       ` Alan Cox
2002-07-12 15:34       ` Andre Hedrick
2002-07-12 17:52   ` Linus Torvalds
2002-07-12 18:33     ` H. Peter Anvin
2002-07-12 18:54       ` Anton Altaparmakov
2002-07-12 18:55         ` H. Peter Anvin
2002-07-12 19:35         ` Zwane Mwaikambo
2002-07-12 19:06       ` Bartlomiej Zolnierkiewicz
2002-07-12 23:17     ` Matthias Andree
2002-07-12 15:02 ` Kevin P. Fleming
2002-07-12 15:10   ` Martin Dalecki
2002-07-12 16:47   ` Andre Hedrick
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2002-07-12 19:25 Joerg Schilling
2002-07-12 19:37 Joerg Schilling
2002-07-12 19:52 ` Thunder from the hill
2002-07-13  6:36   ` jbradford
2002-07-13 14:25     ` Alan Cox
2002-07-13 13:55       ` Thomas Molina
2002-07-13 15:31         ` Alan Cox
2002-07-13 14:31           ` Thomas Molina
2002-07-13 14:07       ` jbradford
2002-07-13 15:32         ` Alan Cox
2002-07-13 14:36           ` jbradford
2002-07-15 11:47   ` Henning P. Schmiedehausen
2002-07-15 18:44     ` Thunder from the hill
2002-07-12 20:06 ` Andre Hedrick
2002-07-12 20:52 ` Alan Cox
2002-07-12 19:49 Joerg Schilling
2002-07-12 19:58 ` Thunder from the hill
2002-07-12 20:38   ` Thunder from the hill
2002-07-12 21:05 ` Alan Cox
2002-07-12 19:55 Joerg Schilling
2002-07-12 20:19 ` Richard B. Johnson
2002-07-13  5:40 ` Erik Andersen
2002-07-13 10:52   ` Anssi Saari
2002-07-14  0:35     ` Erik Andersen
2002-07-13 16:53   ` Olivier Galibert
2002-07-14  0:34     ` Erik Andersen
2002-07-16  5:46       ` H. Peter Anvin
2002-07-12 19:57 Joerg Schilling
2002-07-12 21:17 ` Alan Cox
2002-07-13  5:49   ` Erik Andersen
2002-07-12 20:08 Joerg Schilling
2002-07-12 21:31 ` Alan Cox
2002-07-13 14:46 Adam J. Richter
2002-07-13 15:38 ` Bartlomiej Zolnierkiewicz
2002-07-13 23:27 Adam J. Richter
2002-07-13 23:47 ` Bartlomiej Zolnierkiewicz
2002-07-14  6:20 Adam J. Richter
2002-07-14 15:22 ` Bartlomiej Zolnierkiewicz
2002-07-14 12:32 Joerg Schilling
2002-07-14 16:01 ` Erik Andersen
2002-07-14 12:38 Joerg Schilling
2002-07-14 12:44 Joerg Schilling
2002-07-14 12:50 Joerg Schilling
2002-07-14 13:02 Joerg Schilling
2002-07-14 13:08 Joerg Schilling
2002-07-14 13:59 ` Thunder from the hill
2002-07-14 13:17 Joerg Schilling
2002-07-14 14:03 ` Thunder from the hill
2002-07-14 14:44 ` Alan Cox
2002-07-14 13:24 Joerg Schilling
2002-07-14 13:39 ` Anton Altaparmakov
2002-07-14 14:10 ` Thunder from the hill
2002-07-14 14:35 ` Adrian Bunk
2002-07-14 16:52   ` Kurt Garloff
2002-07-14 13:26 Joerg Schilling
2002-07-14 14:28 ` Thunder from the hill
2002-07-14 13:47 Joerg Schilling
2002-07-14 14:31 ` Thunder from the hill
2002-07-14 21:23 ` Andre Hedrick
2002-07-14 13:55 Joerg Schilling
2002-07-14 14:00 Joerg Schilling
2002-07-15  0:29 ` Richard B. Johnson
2002-07-14 14:07 Joerg Schilling
2002-07-14 15:28 ` Alan Cox
2002-07-18 18:51 ` Kelsey Hudson
2002-07-14 14:18 Joerg Schilling
2002-07-14 14:35 ` Tomas Szepe
2002-07-14 15:00 ` Rik van Riel
2002-07-14 19:13 ` Richard Zidlicky
2002-07-14 14:20 Joerg Schilling
2002-07-14 15:56 ` Erik Andersen
2002-07-14 14:25 Joerg Schilling
2002-07-14 14:28 Joerg Schilling
2002-07-14 14:45 ` Anton Altaparmakov
2002-07-14 14:52   ` Thunder from the hill
2002-07-14 14:46 ` Thunder from the hill
     [not found] <mailman.1026651901.18426.linux-kernel2news@redhat.com>
2002-07-14 15:05 ` Pete Zaitcev
2002-07-14 15:12 Joerg Schilling
2002-07-14 16:45 ` Alan Cox
2002-07-14 15:15 Joerg Schilling
2002-07-14 15:27 ` Rik van Riel
2002-07-14 18:11 Joerg Schilling
2002-07-14 18:40 ` Tomas Szepe
2002-07-14 19:06   ` Tomas Szepe
2002-07-14 19:15     ` Sean Neakums
2002-07-14 19:42       ` Tomas Szepe
2002-07-14 19:02 ` Willy TARREAU
2002-07-14 23:58 ` Andrew Morton
     [not found]   ` <Pine.LNX.4.33.0207150831080.29242-100000@pc-3.office.scali.no>
2002-07-15  6:54     ` Andrew Morton
2002-07-14 18:22 Joerg Schilling
2002-07-14 19:10 Joerg Schilling
2002-07-14 19:18 Joerg Schilling
2002-07-14 19:27 ` Thunder from the hill
2002-07-14 19:20 Joerg Schilling
2002-07-14 19:41 Joerg Schilling
2002-07-14 19:51 ` Tomas Szepe
2002-07-14 20:04 Joerg Schilling
2002-07-14 20:15 ` Tomas Szepe
2002-07-14 20:21   ` Mathieu Chouquet-Stringer
2002-07-14 20:27     ` Mathieu Chouquet-Stringer
     [not found]     ` <Pine.LNX.4.33.0207141704280.21492-100000@coffee.psychology.mcmaster.ca>
2002-07-14 21:09       ` Mathieu Chouquet-Stringer
2002-07-14 21:46     ` Alan Cox
2002-07-14 20:43       ` Mathieu Chouquet-Stringer
2002-07-14 21:59         ` Alan Cox
2002-07-14 20:54           ` Sean Neakums
2002-07-14 21:09             ` Mark Hahn
2002-07-14 22:20               ` Tomas Szepe
2002-07-14 21:07           ` Mathieu Chouquet-Stringer
2002-07-14 22:07             ` Mathieu Chouquet-Stringer
2002-07-14 22:14               ` Thunder from the hill
2002-07-15  3:34                 ` Mathieu Chouquet-Stringer
2002-07-15  3:38                   ` Thunder from the hill
2002-07-15  3:44                     ` Mathieu Chouquet-Stringer
2002-07-15  4:36                       ` Alexander Viro
2002-07-14 20:45       ` Mathieu Chouquet-Stringer
2002-07-14 20:49       ` Daniel Egger
2002-07-14 20:13 Joerg Schilling
2002-07-14 20:18 ` Rik van Riel
2002-07-15  9:11   ` venom
2002-07-15 10:01 ` Richard Zidlicky
2002-07-14 20:18 Joerg Schilling
2002-07-15  9:20 Joerg Schilling
2002-07-15 11:23 ` Buddy Lumpkin
2002-07-15 12:22 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2002-07-15 13:17 ` venom
2002-07-15 11:09 James Bottomley
2002-07-15 11:27 Joerg Schilling
2002-07-15 14:52 ` Rik van Riel
2002-07-15 12:27 Joerg Schilling
2002-07-15 12:58 Joerg Schilling
2002-07-15 13:07 Joerg Schilling
2002-07-16 10:16 ` Richard Zidlicky
2002-07-15 13:26 Joerg Schilling
2002-07-16  3:16 ` Christer Weinigel
2002-07-15 15:08 Joerg Schilling
2002-07-15 18:27 Nick Bellinger
2002-07-15 20:12 ` Jauder Ho
2002-07-16  7:49 ` Buddy Lumpkin
2002-07-16 10:47 Joerg Schilling
2002-07-16 11:02 Joerg Schilling
2002-07-16 11:28 Joerg Schilling
2002-07-16  9:33 ` James Bottomley
2002-07-16 11:43 ` Martin Dalecki
2002-07-16 11:47 ` Lars Marowsky-Bree
2002-07-16 11:59 ` Vojtech Pavlik
2002-07-16 12:49 Joerg Schilling
2002-07-16 14:28 ` Jauder Ho
2002-07-16 16:08   ` Buddy Lumpkin
2002-07-16 14:02 Joerg Schilling
2002-07-16 14:06 Joerg Schilling
2002-07-16 14:15 ` Christoph Hellwig
2002-07-16 14:17 ` Lars Marowsky-Bree
2002-07-16 14:30 Richard Zidlicky
2002-07-16 17:34 Joerg Schilling
2002-07-16 17:49 Joerg Schilling
2002-07-17 12:32 Joerg Schilling
2002-07-17 13:36 ` Rik van Riel
2002-07-17 13:54 ` Anton Altaparmakov
2002-07-17 13:46 Joerg Schilling
2002-07-17 14:00 ` Alexander Viro
2002-07-17 14:58 Joerg Schilling

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