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From: Andrea Arcangeli <andrea@suse.de>
To: mgross <mgross@unix-os.sc.intel.com>
Cc: "Griffiths, Richard A" <richard.a.griffiths@intel.com>,
	"'Andrew Morton'" <akpm@zip.com.au>,
	"'Marcelo Tosatti'" <marcelo@conectiva.com.br>,
	"'linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org'" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	"'Carter K. George'" <carter@polyserve.com>,
	"'Don Norton'" <djn@polyserve.com>,
	"'James S. Tybur'" <jtybur@polyserve.com>,
	"Gross, Mark" <mark.gross@intel.com>
Subject: Re: fsync fixes for 2.4
Date: Wed, 17 Jul 2002 22:05:35 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20020717200535.GP19553@dualathlon.random> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <200207171735.g6HHZUP28835@unix-os.sc.intel.com>

On Wed, Jul 17, 2002 at 10:44:18AM -0400, mgross wrote:
> On Monday 15 July 2002 06:07 am, Andrea Arcangeli wrote:
> > On Fri, Jul 12, 2002 at 02:52:11PM -0700, Griffiths, Richard A wrote:
> > > Mark is off climbing Mt. Hood, so he asked me to post the data on the
> > > fsync patch.
> 
> I was excited to report the significant improvement of 2.4.19rc1+fsync fix 
> over 2.4.18 and didn't realize that the improvement was not due to the fsync 
> patch.   I'm so glad Richard did a careful check, I was on my way out the 
> door for my vacation :)
> 
> I would like to know what's so good about 2.4.19rc1 that gives our block I/O 
> benchmark that significant improvement over 2.4.18.

that should be the effect of the first part of my vm updates that gone into 2.4.19pre.

> > > It appears from these results that there is no appreciable improvement
> > > using the
> > > fsync patch - there is a slight loss of top end on 4 adapters 1 drive.
> >
> > that's very much expected, as said with my new design by adding an
> > additional pass (third pass), I could remove the slight loss that I
> > expected from the simple patch that puts wait_on_buffer right in the
> > first pass.
> >
> > I mentioned this in my first email of the thread, so it looks all right.
> > For a rc2 the slight loss sounds like the simplest approch.
> >
> > If you care about it, with my new fsync accounting design we can fix it,
> > just let me know if you're interested about it. Personally I'm pretty
> > much fine with it this way too, as said in the first email if we block
> > it's likely bdflush is pumping the queue for us. the slowdown is most
> > probably due too early unplug of the queue generated by the blocking
> > points.
> 
> I don't care about the very slight (and possibly in the noise floor of our 
> test) reduction in throughput due to the fsync fix.  I think your's and 
> Andrews'  assertion of the bdflush / dirty page handling getting stopped up 
> is likely the problem preventing scaling to my personal goal of 250 to 
> 300MB/sec on our setup.

yep, should be. Actually running multiple fsyncs from multiple tasks
will kind of workaround the single threaded async flushing of 2.4.

> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Mark Gross
> PS I had a very nice time on mount hood.  I didn't make it to the top this 
> time too much snow had melted off the top of the thing to have a safe attempt 
> at the summit.  It was a guided (http://www.timberlinemtguides.com) 3 day 
> climb. 

:)

Andrea

  reply	other threads:[~2002-07-17 20:03 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 14+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2002-07-12 21:52 fsync fixes for 2.4 Griffiths, Richard A
2002-07-12 22:21 ` Andrew Morton
2002-07-15 10:07 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2002-07-15 18:36   ` Andrew Morton
2002-07-17 14:44   ` mgross
2002-07-17 20:05     ` Andrea Arcangeli [this message]
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2002-07-10 20:20 Andrea Arcangeli
2002-07-11 20:21 ` Marcelo Tosatti
2002-07-11 22:57   ` Andrea Arcangeli
2002-07-12  0:51     ` Marcelo Tosatti
2002-07-12  1:52       ` Andrea Arcangeli
2002-07-12  2:59         ` Marcelo Tosatti
2002-07-11 21:57 ` J.A. Magallon
2002-07-11 23:00   ` Andrea Arcangeli

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