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From: Cort Dougan <cort@fsmlabs.com>
To: Russell King <rmk@arm.linux.org.uk>
Cc: Alan Cox <alan@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk>, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH] cheap lookup of symbol names on oops()
Date: Thu, 25 Jul 2002 16:23:22 -0600	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20020725162322.A2276@host110.fsmlabs.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20020725231822.H9800@flint.arm.linux.org.uk>; from rmk@arm.linux.org.uk on Thu, Jul 25, 2002 at 11:18:22PM +0100

I've had the stack backtrace cause cascading oops' that scroll until I
power a machine off.  It's a crash - things aren't always going to work
out.  Arguments like that can be made to remove nearly the entire oops
message.

The patch as it is now doesn't even add a line of text to the x86 oops
message.  It does add a line to the PPC oops message though.  I understand,
and agree with, the need for brevity in a oops.

Would you be happy with the lookup function as a config option rather than
the default?

} I recently had an oops on my laptop with a rh kernel with I think this
} stuff in (it decoded the trace to symbols, etc).
} 
} The only problem was that the machine paniced at the end, with the
} register dump off the top of the screen.  The only thing visible was
} the trace.
} 
} As useful as it was to have the trace, the oops was useless because
} the rest of the information was missing.
} 
} So why didn't I scroll up?  Because shift-pgup needs a task queue to
} run, which doesn't happen after a panic, just like you can't ctrl-alt-del
} to reboot (but you can alt-sysrq-b)...
} 
} Personally, I'd much rather have the standard oops output and be able
} to scribble down the numbers, and then look them up than to have some
} snazzy bit of code in the kernel do it for me and scroll the useful
} information off the screen.
} 
} (And thanks for reminding me about the oops...)
} 
} -- 
} Russell King (rmk@arm.linux.org.uk)                The developer of ARM Linux
}              http://www.arm.linux.org.uk/personal/aboutme.html

  reply	other threads:[~2002-07-25 22:27 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 37+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2002-07-25 17:00 [PATCH] cheap lookup of symbol names on oops() Cort Dougan
2002-07-25 17:11 ` Christoph Hellwig
2002-07-25 17:21   ` Cort Dougan
2002-07-25 18:49     ` Benjamin LaHaise
2002-07-25 20:16       ` Cort Dougan
2002-07-25 19:04     ` Andrea Arcangeli
2002-07-25 20:27       ` Cort Dougan
2002-07-25 20:59         ` Andrea Arcangeli
2002-07-25 21:05           ` Cort Dougan
2002-07-25 22:06             ` Andrea Arcangeli
2002-07-25 22:05               ` Cort Dougan
2002-07-25 22:56                 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2002-07-25 23:01                   ` Cort Dougan
2002-07-26 22:37                     ` module oops tracking [Re: [PATCH] cheap lookup of symbol names on oops()] Andrea Arcangeli
2002-07-26 22:55                       ` Cort Dougan
2002-07-26 23:28                         ` Andrea Arcangeli
2002-07-26 23:31                           ` Cort Dougan
2002-07-27  0:10                             ` Andrea Arcangeli
2002-07-27  2:15                               ` cort
2002-07-27  0:19                       ` Keith Owens
2002-07-27  0:31                         ` Andrea Arcangeli
2002-07-27  1:19                           ` Andrea Arcangeli
2002-07-27  1:33                             ` Keith Owens
2002-07-27  1:47                               ` Andrea Arcangeli
2002-07-25 21:12           ` [PATCH] cheap lookup of symbol names on oops() Lars Marowsky-Bree
2002-07-25 22:13             ` Andrea Arcangeli
2002-07-25 22:41           ` Rik van Riel
2002-07-25 23:01             ` Andrea Arcangeli
2002-07-26  7:57             ` Lars Marowsky-Bree
     [not found]           ` <Pine.LNX.4.44L.0207251941120.3086-100000@imladris.surriel. com>
2002-07-27  2:34             ` Stevie O
2002-07-25 22:39         ` Rik van Riel
2002-07-26  1:01   ` Marcin Dalecki
2002-07-25 22:46 ` Alan Cox
2002-07-25 21:44   ` Cort Dougan
2002-07-25 22:18     ` Russell King
2002-07-25 22:23       ` Cort Dougan [this message]
2002-07-25 22:44   ` Rik van Riel

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