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* Linux Weekly News dying - any help?
@ 2002-07-26  9:28 bert hubert
  2002-07-26 10:07 ` jbradford
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 7+ messages in thread
From: bert hubert @ 2002-07-26  9:28 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: linux-kernel

I read this last Thursday on lwn.net:

	The end result is that next week's LWN Weekly Edition (August 1)
	will be the last. This has not been an easy decision to make, to say
	the least. But, barring some sort of last minute miracle (do contact
	us if you have one, please!), we do not see any alternative

We bought some advertising on LWN but can of course not keep them alive
ourselves. Does anybody here have ideas on how to keep them in business?

See http://lwn.net

Regards,

bert hubert

-- 
http://www.PowerDNS.com          Versatile DNS Software & Services
http://www.tk                              the dot in .tk
http://lartc.org           Linux Advanced Routing & Traffic Control HOWTO

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* Re: Linux Weekly News dying - any help?
  2002-07-26  9:28 Linux Weekly News dying - any help? bert hubert
@ 2002-07-26 10:07 ` jbradford
  2002-07-26 10:22   ` Russell King
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 7+ messages in thread
From: jbradford @ 2002-07-26 10:07 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: bert hubert; +Cc: linux-kernel

If somebody buys up the domain, I'll hapily spare some time to contribute to it.
Just drop me an E-Mail.

> I read this last Thursday on lwn.net:
> 
> 	The end result is that next week's LWN Weekly Edition (August 1)
> 	will be the last. This has not been an easy decision to make, to say
> 	the least. But, barring some sort of last minute miracle (do contact
> 	us if you have one, please!), we do not see any alternative
> 
> We bought some advertising on LWN but can of course not keep them alive
> ourselves. Does anybody here have ideas on how to keep them in business?
> 
> See http://lwn.net

John.

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* Re: Linux Weekly News dying - any help?
  2002-07-26 10:07 ` jbradford
@ 2002-07-26 10:22   ` Russell King
  2002-07-26 10:35     ` bert hubert
  2002-07-27 23:51     ` Daniel Phillips
  0 siblings, 2 replies; 7+ messages in thread
From: Russell King @ 2002-07-26 10:22 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: jbradford; +Cc: bert hubert, linux-kernel

On Fri, Jul 26, 2002 at 11:07:30AM +0100, jbradford@dial.pipex.com wrote:
> If somebody buys up the domain, I'll hapily spare some time to contribute
> to it. Just drop me an E-Mail.

I'm sure someone has a server with some space available to host the site.

-- 
Russell King (rmk@arm.linux.org.uk)                The developer of ARM Linux
             http://www.arm.linux.org.uk/personal/aboutme.html


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* Re: Linux Weekly News dying - any help?
  2002-07-26 10:22   ` Russell King
@ 2002-07-26 10:35     ` bert hubert
  2002-07-26 10:48       ` jbradford
  2002-07-26 15:53       ` Rik van Riel
  2002-07-27 23:51     ` Daniel Phillips
  1 sibling, 2 replies; 7+ messages in thread
From: bert hubert @ 2002-07-26 10:35 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Russell King; +Cc: jbradford, linux-kernel

On Fri, Jul 26, 2002 at 11:22:09AM +0100, Russell King wrote:
> On Fri, Jul 26, 2002 at 11:07:30AM +0100, jbradford@dial.pipex.com wrote:
> > If somebody buys up the domain, I'll hapily spare some time to contribute
> > to it. Just drop me an E-Mail.
> 
> I'm sure someone has a server with some space available to host the site.

It is not the server. I have a server for them. I think many do not realise
how much time Jon & friends spend on making LWN, and it is precisely this
*time* that sets them apart from everything else.

Compare them to a Linux dedicated Theregister.co.uk - real journalism with
analyses that go beyond what is provided by CmdrTaco (entertaining though he
may be) and their like.

In order to make LWN, they need to find a way to give them the time to work
on it. They can't do it next to a day job.

Regards,

bert

-- 
http://www.PowerDNS.com          Versatile DNS Software & Services
http://www.tk                              the dot in .tk
http://lartc.org           Linux Advanced Routing & Traffic Control HOWTO

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* Re: Linux Weekly News dying - any help?
  2002-07-26 10:35     ` bert hubert
@ 2002-07-26 10:48       ` jbradford
  2002-07-26 15:53       ` Rik van Riel
  1 sibling, 0 replies; 7+ messages in thread
From: jbradford @ 2002-07-26 10:48 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: bert hubert; +Cc: linux-kernel, rmk

> 
> On Fri, Jul 26, 2002 at 11:22:09AM +0100, Russell King wrote:
> > On Fri, Jul 26, 2002 at 11:07:30AM +0100, jbradford@dial.pipex.com wrote:
> > > If somebody buys up the domain, I'll hapily spare some time to contribute
> > > to it. Just drop me an E-Mail.
> > 
> > I'm sure someone has a server with some space available to host the site.
> 
> It is not the server. I have a server for them. I think many do not realise
> how much time Jon & friends spend on making LWN, and it is precisely this
> *time* that sets them apart from everything else.
> 
> Compare them to a Linux dedicated Theregister.co.uk - real journalism with
> analyses that go beyond what is provided by CmdrTaco (entertaining though he
> may be) and their like.
> 
> In order to make LWN, they need to find a way to give them the time to work
> on it. They can't do it next to a day job.

I do understand the level of the work-load, and obviously wouldn't want to do it completely on my own for ever, and if I did, the quality would not be very good.

However, my situation at the moment, is that I am a freelance "general Unix and PHP/MySQL programming bloke", without enough work.  I have time on my hands, and am quite happy to put some of it towards doing something like a Linux version of The Register, (excellent description of what I had in mind), in return for being able to say - "CV?  I don't need one, see http://foobar - that's me".

John.

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* Re: Linux Weekly News dying - any help?
  2002-07-26 10:35     ` bert hubert
  2002-07-26 10:48       ` jbradford
@ 2002-07-26 15:53       ` Rik van Riel
  1 sibling, 0 replies; 7+ messages in thread
From: Rik van Riel @ 2002-07-26 15:53 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: bert hubert; +Cc: Russell King, jbradford, linux-kernel

On Fri, 26 Jul 2002, bert hubert wrote:
> On Fri, Jul 26, 2002 at 11:22:09AM +0100, Russell King wrote:
> > On Fri, Jul 26, 2002 at 11:07:30AM +0100, jbradford@dial.pipex.com wrote:
> > > If somebody buys up the domain, I'll hapily spare some time to contribute
> > > to it. Just drop me an E-Mail.
> >
> > I'm sure someone has a server with some space available to host the site.
>
> It is not the server. I have a server for them. I think many do not realise
> how much time Jon & friends spend on making LWN, and it is precisely this
> *time* that sets them apart from everything else.

Absolutely. You cannot do a news site of LWN quality with 100
volunteers that all spend 2 hours a week getting informed.

Instead, you need a few people that are really well informed.
This costs money, because these people won't have time to do
other things that pay their bills.

I'm donating some money right now. If it doesn't save them for
a bit more time I'll just consider it overdue subscription fees
and a thank you...

	http://old.lwn.net/corp/donate/

regards,

Rik
-- 
Bravely reimplemented by the knights who say "NIH".

http://www.surriel.com/		http://distro.conectiva.com/


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* Re: Linux Weekly News dying - any help?
  2002-07-26 10:22   ` Russell King
  2002-07-26 10:35     ` bert hubert
@ 2002-07-27 23:51     ` Daniel Phillips
  1 sibling, 0 replies; 7+ messages in thread
From: Daniel Phillips @ 2002-07-27 23:51 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Russell King, jbradford; +Cc: bert hubert, linux-kernel

On Friday 26 July 2002 12:22, Russell King wrote:
> On Fri, Jul 26, 2002 at 11:07:30AM +0100, jbradford@dial.pipex.com wrote:
> > If somebody buys up the domain, I'll hapily spare some time to contribute
> > to it. Just drop me an E-Mail.
> 
> I'm sure someone has a server with some space available to host the site.

Jon points out that salaries are the problem.  There seems to be a shortfall
of $150,000, or perhaps a little more, in that department.

-- 
Daniel

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