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From: Pete Zaitcev <zaitcev@redhat.com>
To: David Woodhouse <dwmw2@infradead.org>
Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: manipulating sigmask from filesystems and drivers
Date: Thu, 1 Aug 2002 19:37:20 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <200208012337.g71NbKs01634@devserv.devel.redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <mailman.1028232841.11555.linux-kernel2news@redhat.com>

>>  They should be waiting in TASK_UNINTERRUPTIBLE, and we should add a
>> flag  to distinguish between "increases load average" and "doesn't".
> 
> The disadvantage of this approach is that it encourages people to be lazy
> and sleep with signals disabled, instead of implementing proper cleanup
> code. 
> 
> I'm more in favour of removing TASK_UNINTERRUPTIBLE entirely, or at least 
> making people apply for a special licence to be permitted to use it :)
> 
> --
> dwmw2

Consider this. An application writes to /dev/dsp0, and ymfpci
(for example) start DMA. Then user interrupts the app with ^C.
When ymfpci gets ->release() call, it has to tell the chip
to stop DMA, then wait until it's complete. If it tries to
wait with TASK_INTERRUPTIBLE, schedule() will return immediately,
and in essense do a busy loop with CPU pegged at 100%.

Same thing happens in USB, only there it's worse: a spinning
application locks out khubd and whole subsistem dies.

-- Pete

  parent reply	other threads:[~2002-08-01 23:33 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 37+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2002-07-31 11:52 manipulating sigmask from filesystems and drivers David Howells
2002-07-31 11:58 ` Alan Cox
2002-08-01 19:09 ` Linus Torvalds
2002-08-01 20:10   ` David Woodhouse
2002-08-01 20:21     ` Linus Torvalds
2002-08-01 20:47       ` Roman Zippel
2002-08-01 20:51         ` Linus Torvalds
2002-08-01 21:15           ` Roman Zippel
2002-08-01 21:42             ` Linus Torvalds
2002-08-01 22:29               ` David Woodhouse
2002-08-01 22:40                 ` Linus Torvalds
2002-08-01 22:50                   ` David Woodhouse
2002-08-02 15:59                   ` yodaiken
2002-08-01 22:35               ` Roman Zippel
2002-08-01 23:30                 ` Linus Torvalds
2002-08-02  0:31                   ` Olivier Galibert
2002-08-02  8:00                     ` Kai Henningsen
2002-08-02 10:02                   ` Roman Zippel
2002-08-02 12:38                     ` Ryan Anderson
2002-08-02 15:39                     ` Linus Torvalds
2002-08-02 16:00                       ` Benjamin LaHaise
2002-08-02 16:27                         ` Linus Torvalds
2002-08-02 17:13                           ` Jamie Lokier
2002-08-02 17:29                             ` Linus Torvalds
2002-08-02 17:57                               ` Trond Myklebust
2002-08-02 18:10                                 ` Linus Torvalds
2002-08-02 17:33                           ` Oliver Neukum
2002-08-03 18:27                             ` David Woodhouse
2002-10-17  8:32                           ` David Woodhouse
2002-08-02 19:27                       ` Roman Zippel
2002-08-02  7:31                 ` Giuliano Pochini
     [not found]   ` <mailman.1028232841.11555.linux-kernel2news@redhat.com>
2002-08-01 23:37     ` Pete Zaitcev [this message]
2002-08-01 23:46       ` David Woodhouse
     [not found] <0C01A29FBAE24448A792F5C68F5EA47D2D3E2B@nasdaq.ms.ensim.com>
2002-08-02 17:57 ` Paul Menage
2002-08-02 23:25   ` Ryan Anderson
2002-08-02 23:30     ` Paul Menage
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2002-08-02 18:24 Jesse Pollard

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