From: Mike Touloumtzis <miket@bluemug.com>
To: Alexander Viro <viro@math.psu.edu>
Cc: martin@dalecki.de, Thunder from the hill <thunder@ngforever.de>,
Peter Chubb <peter@chubb.wattle.id.au>,
Pavel Machek <pavel@ucw.cz>,
Matt_Domsch@Dell.com, Andries.Brouwer@cwi.nl,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: 2.5.28 and partitions
Date: Fri, 2 Aug 2002 12:40:58 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20020802194058.GA4528@bluemug.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Pine.GSO.4.21.0208011733450.12627-100000@weyl.math.psu.edu>
On Thu, Aug 01, 2002 at 05:41:53PM -0400, Alexander Viro wrote:
>
> On Thu, 1 Aug 2002, Marcin Dalecki wrote:
>
> > Ahh. we are at "devil" arguemnt level... So I will ease myself:
> > Why the hell don't you rewrite the whole kernel for example in LISP if
> > you love string processing that much?
>
> Huh?
>
> What the <your pet expletive> does LISP have to strings?
Umm... LISP is all about using strings instead of binary representations,
or at least hiding binary representations other than list building
primitives from the programmer.
Your ASCII partition table proposal is _exactly_ what a LISPer would
propose for partition tables: use strings to represent values in a format
that has no implicit size limits on numbers, is endian independent, etc.
The only difference is a LISPer would surround it with parentheses :-).
IMHO s-expressions are severely underrepresented as an
architecture-independent data representation that could more or less
eliminate the need for ad hoc parsers in, say, /proc. Of course
one-ASCII-symbol-per-file accomplishes more or less the same thing,
but for much higher system call overhead. I guess the ideal would be a
multi-file-spanning variation on seq_file (I think that's the name for
the stateful /proc parsing helper?) that would serialize the contents
of a tree into an s-expression, allowing the best of both worlds.
miket
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2002-08-02 19:43 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 52+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
[not found] <15688.25919.138565.6427@wombat.chubb.wattle.id.au>
2002-07-31 22:39 ` 2.5.28 and partitions Alexander Viro
2002-08-01 10:08 ` Marcin Dalecki
2002-08-01 12:31 ` Kai Henningsen
2002-08-01 19:29 ` Thunder from the hill
2002-08-01 20:31 ` Alexander Viro
2002-08-01 20:45 ` Thunder from the hill
2002-08-01 21:08 ` Alexander Viro
2002-08-01 21:25 ` Marcin Dalecki
2002-08-01 21:41 ` Alexander Viro
2002-08-02 19:40 ` Mike Touloumtzis [this message]
2002-08-01 21:02 ` Marcin Dalecki
2002-08-01 21:27 ` Alexander Viro
2002-08-01 21:45 ` Marcin Dalecki
2002-08-02 5:21 ` Ryan Anderson
2002-08-01 21:24 ` Albert D. Cahalan
2002-08-02 19:47 ` Mike Touloumtzis
2002-08-02 20:49 ` Albert D. Cahalan
2002-08-02 21:21 ` Mike Touloumtzis
2002-08-02 21:36 ` [RFC] " Thunder from the hill
2002-08-02 22:12 ` Albert D. Cahalan
2002-08-02 22:53 ` Mike Touloumtzis
2002-08-02 14:54 Jesse Pollard
2002-08-02 18:33 ` Kai Henningsen
[not found] <15688.27022.143541.447952@wombat.chubb.wattle.id.au>
2002-07-31 23:42 ` Alexander Viro
-- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2002-07-31 23:38 Matt_Domsch
[not found] <F44891A593A6DE4B99FDCB7CC537BBBBB839AC@AUSXMPS308.aus.amer .dell.com>
2002-07-31 22:58 ` Anton Altaparmakov
2002-07-31 22:47 Matt_Domsch
2002-07-25 17:50 Andries.Brouwer
2002-07-25 13:24 Petr Vandrovec
2002-07-25 13:45 ` Anton Altaparmakov
2002-07-26 5:13 ` Adrian Bunk
2002-07-25 12:43 Petr Vandrovec
2002-07-25 3:22 Matt_Domsch
2002-07-25 5:27 ` Linus Torvalds
2002-07-25 11:44 ` Alexander Viro
2002-07-25 15:57 ` Linus Torvalds
2002-07-30 9:58 ` Pavel Machek
[not found] ` <Pine.GSO.4.21.0207250739390.17037-100000@weyl.math.psu.edu >
2002-07-25 13:03 ` Anton Altaparmakov
2002-07-25 16:50 ` Alexander Viro
2002-07-25 17:35 ` Jason L Tibbitts III
2002-07-25 17:57 ` Rik van Riel
2002-07-25 18:27 ` Alexander Viro
2002-07-27 5:56 ` Austin Gonyou
[not found] ` <Pine.GSO.4.21.0207251245530.17621-100000@weyl.math.psu.edu >
2002-07-25 17:39 ` Anton Altaparmakov
2002-07-25 10:42 ` Alan Cox
2002-07-24 22:42 Andries.Brouwer
2002-07-24 23:42 ` Alexander Viro
2002-07-25 0:20 ` kwijibo
2002-07-25 4:00 ` Jason L Tibbitts III
[not found] ` <Pine.GSO.4.21.0207241925450.14656-100000@weyl.math.psu.edu >
2002-07-25 2:11 ` Anton Altaparmakov
2002-07-25 5:15 ` Linus Torvalds
[not found] ` <Pine.LNX.4.44.0207242213540.1231-100000@home.transmeta.com >
2002-07-25 8:43 ` Anton Altaparmakov
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