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From: Russell King <rmk@arm.linux.org.uk>
To: "H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@zytor.com>
Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, viro@math.psu.edu
Subject: Re: klibc and logging
Date: Mon, 19 Aug 2002 14:27:34 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20020819142734.B17471@flint.arm.linux.org.uk> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <3D58B14A.5080500@zytor.com>; from hpa@zytor.com on Tue, Aug 13, 2002 at 12:12:10AM -0700

On Tue, Aug 13, 2002 at 12:12:10AM -0700, H. Peter Anvin wrote:
> However, I'm wondering what to do about logging.

While writing my scripts for initramfs, the following thought occurred:

1. We only need the fd for initramfs.
2. We want to log the output from commands executed in initramfs.

Currently with an initrd, we set fd 0, 1, 2 to point to /dev/console.
Is there any reason we couldn't set fd 0 to /dev/console (maybe from
inside initramfs) but always setup fd 1 and 2 from the kernel to point
at a special "translate this into printk" fd ?

This has several advantages:

1. No need for another "special" device.
2. Once the fd is closed, its gone for good - no security concerns with
   apps in userland after boot dumping copious amounts of data into the
   kernel message buffer.
3. initramfs programs/scripts don't need to be aware of any special
   logging facilities

The disadvantages:

1. We need some way to open fd 1 and 2 in the first place; this is
   likely to be a special case, and initramfs is supposed to remove
   special cases from the kernel.

-- 
Russell King (rmk@arm.linux.org.uk)                The developer of ARM Linux
             http://www.arm.linux.org.uk/personal/aboutme.html


  parent reply	other threads:[~2002-08-19 13:23 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 24+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2002-08-13  7:12 klibc and logging H. Peter Anvin
2002-08-13  7:52 ` Erik Andersen
2002-08-13  8:04   ` Alexander Viro
2002-08-13 10:12     ` Erik Andersen
2002-08-13 10:38       ` Alexander Viro
2002-08-13 14:27         ` Eric W. Biederman
2002-08-13 18:05         ` H. Peter Anvin
2002-08-13  9:42 ` Miquel van Smoorenburg
2002-08-13 17:41   ` H. Peter Anvin
2002-08-13 17:54     ` Benjamin LaHaise
2002-08-13 17:59       ` H. Peter Anvin
2002-08-13 17:55     ` Randy.Dunlap
2002-08-16  5:05     ` Oliver Xymoron
2002-08-19 13:27 ` Russell King [this message]
2002-08-19 13:59   ` H. Peter Anvin
2002-08-19 16:54     ` Russell King
2002-08-19 16:58       ` H. Peter Anvin
2002-08-19 17:25         ` Russell King
2002-08-19 17:27           ` H. Peter Anvin
2002-08-19 17:29           ` H. Peter Anvin
2002-08-19 19:37             ` Alan Cox
2002-08-19 19:40               ` H. Peter Anvin
2002-08-20 13:22       ` Thunder from the hill
2002-08-20 14:45         ` Russell King

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