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From: Benjamin Herrenschmidt <benh@kernel.crashing.org>
To: Andre Hedrick <andre@linux-ide.org>,
	"Eric W. Biederman" <ebiederm@xmission.com>
Cc: Jeff Garzik <jgarzik@mandrakesoft.com>,
	"Heater, Daniel (IndSys, GEFanuc,
	VMIC)" <Daniel.Heater@gefanuc.com>,
	"'Padraig Brady'" <padraig.brady@corvil.com>,
	"'Linux Kernel'" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: IDE-flash device and hard disk on same controller
Date: Fri, 23 Aug 2002 13:44:33 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20020823114433.10784@192.168.4.1> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.10.10208222014450.13077-100000@master.linux-ide.org>

>> The problem is that immediately after bootup ATA devices do not respond
>until
>> their media has spun up.  Which is both required by the spec, and
>observed in
>> practice.   Which is likely a problem if this code is run a few seconds
>after
>> bootup.  Which makes it quite possible the drive will ignore the
>EXECUTE DEVICE
>> DIAGNOSTICS and your error code won't be valid when the bsy flag
>> clears.   I don't know how serious that would be. 
>
>We did POST already.

Well... x86 PCs with ordinary BIOSes did. Other firmwares,
embedded devices, whatever.... may not, or eventually the firmware
will have reset everything prior to booting the kernel (go figure
why, but that happens).

It's not difficult nor harmful to wait for that dawn busy bit to
go away, so why not do it ?

Ben.



  reply	other threads:[~2002-08-23  9:38 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 45+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2002-08-20 19:52 IDE-flash device and hard disk on same controller Heater, Daniel (IndSys, GEFanuc, VMIC)
2002-08-20 21:57 ` Andre Hedrick
2002-08-20 22:00   ` Jeff Garzik
2002-08-20 22:28     ` Jeff Garzik
2002-08-21  6:36       ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2002-08-21  6:55         ` Andre Hedrick
2002-08-21  7:16           ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2002-08-21  6:57         ` MMIO {Re: IDE-flash device and hard disk on same controller} Andre Hedrick
2002-08-21  7:10           ` Andre Hedrick
2002-08-22  5:34       ` IDE-flash device and hard disk on same controller Eric W. Biederman
2002-08-22 23:12         ` Jeff Garzik
2002-08-23  0:50           ` Eric W. Biederman
2002-08-23  1:26             ` Jeff Garzik
2002-08-23 11:03               ` Russell King
2002-08-23 11:41               ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2002-08-23 10:12                 ` Alan Cox
2002-08-23 13:09               ` Eric W. Biederman
2002-08-23  3:14             ` Andre Hedrick
2002-08-23 11:44               ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt [this message]
2002-08-24  2:02                 ` Jeff Garzik
2002-08-24  0:19                   ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2002-08-24  8:41                   ` Russell King
2002-08-24 20:28                     ` Andre Hedrick
2002-08-23  3:19             ` Andre Hedrick
2002-08-23  7:14               ` Helge Hafting
2002-08-23  7:49                 ` Andre Hedrick
2002-08-23 10:50               ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2002-08-23 11:08                 ` Russell King
2002-08-23 11:07               ` Russell King
2002-08-23 11:36           ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2002-08-22 13:41 ` bill davidsen
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2002-08-23 10:48 Adam J. Richter
2002-08-23 10:14 Adam J. Richter
2002-08-23  8:31 Adam J. Richter
2002-08-23  8:59 ` Andre Hedrick
2002-08-23  9:54 ` Andries Brouwer
2002-08-23  6:54 Adam J. Richter
2002-08-23  7:45 ` Andre Hedrick
2002-08-23 11:10   ` Russell King
2002-08-23 17:08     ` Andre Hedrick
2002-08-23 17:42       ` Andre Hedrick
2002-08-21 13:22 Warner, Bill (IndSys, GEFanuc, VMIC)
2002-08-19 18:31 Heater, Daniel (IndSys, GEFanuc, VMIC)
2002-08-19 19:21 ` Alan Cox
2002-08-20  8:44 ` Padraig Brady

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