From: Dominik Brodowski <devel@brodo.de>
To: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@transmeta.com>
Cc: Alan Cox <alan@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk>,
cpufreq@www.linux.org.uk, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH][2.5.32] CPU frequency and voltage scaling (0/4)
Date: Wed, 28 Aug 2002 22:27:43 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20020828222743.B816@brodo.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.33.0208281246560.4507-100000@penguin.transmeta.com>; from torvalds@transmeta.com on Wed, Aug 28, 2002 at 12:49:31PM -0700
On Wed, Aug 28, 2002 at 12:49:31PM -0700, Linus Torvalds wrote:
>
> On 28 Aug 2002, Alan Cox wrote:
> >
> > You might want to read the paper on the original cpufreq for ARM. It
> > gives real world cases where the user -needs- to be able to control the
> > policy. I think you misunderstand what the interface is about. Large
> > numbers of systems benefit from usermode policy engines.
>
> That's not the point.
>
> The point is that the _policy_ (not the end result) needs to be pushed
> down to the kernel, so that the kernel can do the right thing with it.
>
> That policy can be updated in "real time" from user space, of course. But
> the fact is that you cannot just set a frequency and leave it at that, it
> doesn't work.
On the long term, maybe. But cpufreq is only the driver, which lets you have
such a policy engine in the kernel. And as long as this policy engine
doesn't exist, why not offer the user some control over his system?
Dominik
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2002-08-28 20:25 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 46+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2002-08-28 11:46 [PATCH][2.5.32] CPU frequency and voltage scaling (0/4) Dominik Brodowski
2002-08-28 18:47 ` Linus Torvalds
2002-08-28 18:48 ` Cort Dougan
2002-08-28 19:25 ` Alan Cox
2002-08-28 19:32 ` Cort Dougan
2002-08-29 10:26 ` Zwane Mwaikambo
2002-08-28 19:41 ` Peter Riocreux
2002-08-28 19:58 ` Linus Torvalds
2002-08-29 9:51 ` Padraig Brady
2002-08-29 10:23 ` Zwane Mwaikambo
2002-08-28 19:21 ` Alan Cox
2002-08-28 19:49 ` Linus Torvalds
2002-08-28 20:25 ` Alan Cox
2002-08-28 20:29 ` Linus Torvalds
2002-08-28 23:26 ` Alan Cox
2002-08-28 23:49 ` Linus Torvalds
2002-08-30 0:39 ` jw schultz
2002-08-29 7:01 ` Dominik Brodowski
2002-08-28 20:39 ` Dominik Brodowski
2002-08-28 21:05 ` Linus Torvalds
2002-09-06 11:31 ` Pavel Machek
2002-08-28 20:27 ` Dominik Brodowski [this message]
2002-08-28 20:19 ` Dominik Brodowski
2002-08-28 20:43 ` Linus Torvalds
2002-08-28 20:53 ` Dominik Brodowski
2002-08-28 21:08 ` Linus Torvalds
2002-08-28 23:00 ` george anzinger
2002-08-28 23:30 ` Alan Cox
2002-08-29 0:08 ` Linus Torvalds
2002-08-29 7:07 ` Dominik Brodowski
2002-08-29 10:02 ` Padraig Brady
2002-08-29 10:53 ` Alan Cox
2002-08-29 13:38 ` Dave Jones
2002-08-29 18:47 ` Linus Torvalds
2002-08-29 19:24 ` Alan Cox
2002-08-29 21:22 ` george anzinger
2002-08-30 6:46 ` David Gibson
2002-08-30 7:54 ` Helge Hafting
2002-08-30 3:21 ` David Lang
-- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2002-08-28 20:25 Grover, Andrew
2002-08-28 20:46 ` Linus Torvalds
2002-08-29 15:07 Pering, Trevor
2002-08-30 8:04 ` Helge Hafting
2002-08-30 11:53 ` Dave Jones
2002-08-30 12:36 ` Helge Hafting
2002-08-30 22:43 ` george anzinger
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