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From: Dominik Brodowski <devel@brodo.de>
To: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@transmeta.com>
Cc: Alan Cox <alan@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk>,
	cpufreq@www.linux.org.uk, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH][2.5.32] CPU frequency and voltage scaling (0/4)
Date: Wed, 28 Aug 2002 22:27:43 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20020828222743.B816@brodo.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.33.0208281246560.4507-100000@penguin.transmeta.com>; from torvalds@transmeta.com on Wed, Aug 28, 2002 at 12:49:31PM -0700

On Wed, Aug 28, 2002 at 12:49:31PM -0700, Linus Torvalds wrote:
> 
> On 28 Aug 2002, Alan Cox wrote:
> > 
> > You might want to read the paper on the original cpufreq for ARM. It
> > gives real world cases where the user -needs- to be able to control the
> > policy. I think you misunderstand what the interface is about. Large
> > numbers of systems benefit from usermode policy engines.
> 
> That's not the point.
> 
> The point is that the _policy_ (not the end result) needs to be pushed 
> down to the kernel, so that the kernel can do the right thing with it.
> 
> That policy can be updated in "real time" from user space, of course. But 
> the fact is that you cannot just set a frequency and leave it at that, it 
> doesn't work.

On the long term, maybe. But cpufreq is only the driver, which lets you have
such a policy engine in the kernel. And as long as this policy engine
doesn't exist, why not offer the user some control over his system?

	Dominik

  parent reply	other threads:[~2002-08-28 20:25 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 46+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2002-08-28 11:46 [PATCH][2.5.32] CPU frequency and voltage scaling (0/4) Dominik Brodowski
2002-08-28 18:47 ` Linus Torvalds
2002-08-28 18:48   ` Cort Dougan
2002-08-28 19:25     ` Alan Cox
2002-08-28 19:32       ` Cort Dougan
2002-08-29 10:26         ` Zwane Mwaikambo
2002-08-28 19:41       ` Peter Riocreux
2002-08-28 19:58       ` Linus Torvalds
2002-08-29  9:51         ` Padraig Brady
2002-08-29 10:23     ` Zwane Mwaikambo
2002-08-28 19:21   ` Alan Cox
2002-08-28 19:49     ` Linus Torvalds
2002-08-28 20:25       ` Alan Cox
2002-08-28 20:29         ` Linus Torvalds
2002-08-28 23:26           ` Alan Cox
2002-08-28 23:49             ` Linus Torvalds
2002-08-30  0:39               ` jw schultz
2002-08-29  7:01             ` Dominik Brodowski
2002-08-28 20:39         ` Dominik Brodowski
2002-08-28 21:05           ` Linus Torvalds
2002-09-06 11:31             ` Pavel Machek
2002-08-28 20:27       ` Dominik Brodowski [this message]
2002-08-28 20:19   ` Dominik Brodowski
2002-08-28 20:43     ` Linus Torvalds
2002-08-28 20:53       ` Dominik Brodowski
2002-08-28 21:08         ` Linus Torvalds
2002-08-28 23:00           ` george anzinger
2002-08-28 23:30           ` Alan Cox
2002-08-29  0:08             ` Linus Torvalds
2002-08-29  7:07               ` Dominik Brodowski
2002-08-29 10:02               ` Padraig Brady
2002-08-29 10:53               ` Alan Cox
2002-08-29 13:38                 ` Dave Jones
2002-08-29 18:47                 ` Linus Torvalds
2002-08-29 19:24                   ` Alan Cox
2002-08-29 21:22                   ` george anzinger
2002-08-30  6:46                     ` David Gibson
2002-08-30  7:54                     ` Helge Hafting
2002-08-30  3:21                 ` David Lang
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2002-08-28 20:25 Grover, Andrew
2002-08-28 20:46 ` Linus Torvalds
2002-08-29 15:07 Pering, Trevor
2002-08-30  8:04 ` Helge Hafting
2002-08-30 11:53   ` Dave Jones
2002-08-30 12:36     ` Helge Hafting
2002-08-30 22:43       ` george anzinger

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