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From: Ivan Kokshaysky <ink@jurassic.park.msu.ru>
To: Benjamin Herrenschmidt <benh@kernel.crashing.org>
Cc: Ivan Kokshaysky <ink@jurassic.park.msu.ru>,
	Linus Torvalds <torvalds@transmeta.com>,
	Manfred Spraul <manfred@colorfullife.com>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [patch 2.5.31] transparent PCI-to-PCI bridges
Date: Sat, 31 Aug 2002 14:42:23 +0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20020831144223.A772@localhost.park.msu.ru> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20020830201958.24112@192.168.4.1>; from benh@kernel.crashing.org on Fri, Aug 30, 2002 at 10:19:58PM +0200

On Fri, Aug 30, 2002 at 10:19:58PM +0200, Benjamin Herrenschmidt wrote:
> First, a simple problem: You are showing a possible problem caused
> by a given PCI host & bridge setup. That's not my point. My point
> is that I _do_ have setups with N MMIO regions and want the kernel
> to be able to deal with that.

It's just an example. Give me real numbers and addresses and I'll show
you configuration with _real_ hardware which might work, but won't
with your approach.

> I'm not introducing any limitation to
> the code, I want the code to be generic enough to cope with a setup
> that exist (as the host is configured by my firmware).

You won't allow windows of the PCI bridge to overlap multiple ranges decoded
by the host bridge - it's a serious limitation, I think.

> Also, in your example, if I expose a single memory resource, then I
> lie since the host bridge in this example would not forward addresses
> "between" the 2 ranges, thus the kernel would potentially allocate
> space for unassigned devices in that non-decoded range.

Nope.  Arch specific pcibios_align_resource is called on every allocation
and should take care of this - read the code.

> I want my host pci_bus structure to expose what it is really forwarding.
> That's as simple as that. If your host is configured in a more "sane",
> way, then good.

Actually, no. Some old alphas have several (8, IIRC) PCI memory windows
with a 8Mb "hole" in each.

> Regarding your above example, it just don't happen in real life.
> First, we have AGP as a separate PCI host domain on pmac ;) Then,
> the firmware can configures host bridges with large enough regions
> to deal with what is needed by the card.

Pmac firmware is really cool then. ;-) Video cards with 256M memory
regions are quite common and 512M ones already exist.

Ivan.

  reply	other threads:[~2002-08-31 10:39 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 26+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2002-08-25 16:55 [patch 2.5.31] transparent PCI-to-PCI bridges Manfred Spraul
2002-08-26 13:57 ` Ivan Kokshaysky
2002-08-26 17:42   ` Linus Torvalds
2002-08-28  0:58     ` Ivan Kokshaysky
2002-08-28  1:29       ` Linus Torvalds
2002-08-30 21:38         ` [patch 2.5.32] " Ivan Kokshaysky
2002-08-26 20:12   ` [patch 2.5.31] " Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2002-08-28  1:40     ` Ivan Kokshaysky
2002-08-28 10:03       ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2002-08-28 17:35         ` Linus Torvalds
2002-08-28 18:35           ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2002-08-29 23:53           ` Ivan Kokshaysky
2002-08-30  9:28             ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2002-08-30 21:57               ` Ivan Kokshaysky
2002-08-30 20:19                 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2002-08-31 10:42                   ` Ivan Kokshaysky [this message]
2002-08-31 15:06                     ` Alan Cox
2002-08-31 16:49                       ` Linus Torvalds
2002-08-31 22:40                         ` Ivan Kokshaysky
2002-08-31  8:09                 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2002-08-30 17:12             ` Linus Torvalds
2002-08-30 22:23               ` Ivan Kokshaysky
2002-08-31  8:09                 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2002-08-31 13:12                   ` Ivan Kokshaysky
2002-08-31 16:29                 ` Linus Torvalds
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2002-08-24 20:17 Ivan Kokshaysky

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