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From: Andries Brouwer <aebr@win.tue.nl>
To: James Bottomley <James.Bottomley@steeleye.com>
Cc: "Justin T. Gibbs" <gibbs@scsiguy.com>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-scsi@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: aic7xxx sets CDR offline, how to reset?
Date: Wed, 4 Sep 2002 12:37:37 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20020904103737.GA9936@win.tue.nl> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <200209032148.g83LmeP09177@localhost.localdomain>

On Tue, Sep 03, 2002 at 04:48:39PM -0500, James Bottomley wrote:

> If you're hitting error recovery so often that whether it recovers
> in  half a second or several seconds makes a difference, I'd say
> there's something else wrong.

Not that I want to contradict, but an example.
Without my sd.c patch from yesterday or so (fixing MODE SENSE calls)
an "insmod usb-storage.o" would take 14 minutes and 6 seconds for me.

[One USB device, with 3 subdevices, gets into a bad state when
presented with a MODE SENSE command that asks for more than the
56 bytes it has available. For each of the three subdevices we
get a long sequence of retries, abort, reset, host reset, bus reset
before it is taken off-line.]

The scsi error recovery has many bad properties, but one is its slowness.
Once it gets triggered on a machine with SCSI disks it is common to
have a dead system for several minutes. I have not yet met a situation
in which rebooting was not preferable above scsi error recovery,
especially since the attempt to recover often fails.

Andries

  parent reply	other threads:[~2002-09-04 10:33 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 45+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2002-09-03 14:35 aic7xxx sets CDR offline, how to reset? James Bottomley
2002-09-03 18:23 ` Doug Ledford
2002-09-03 19:09   ` James Bottomley
2002-09-03 20:59     ` Alan Cox
2002-09-03 21:32       ` James Bottomley
2002-09-03 21:54         ` Alan Cox
2002-09-03 22:50         ` Doug Ledford
2002-09-03 23:28           ` Alan Cox
2002-09-04  7:40           ` Jeremy Higdon
2002-09-04 16:24             ` James Bottomley
2002-09-04 17:13               ` Mike Anderson
2002-09-05  9:50               ` Jeremy Higdon
2002-09-04 16:13           ` James Bottomley
2002-09-04 16:50             ` Justin T. Gibbs
2002-09-05  9:39               ` Jeremy Higdon
2002-09-05 13:35                 ` Justin T. Gibbs
2002-09-03 21:13     ` Doug Ledford
2002-09-03 21:48       ` James Bottomley
2002-09-03 22:42         ` Doug Ledford
2002-09-03 22:52           ` Doug Ledford
2002-09-03 23:29           ` Alan Cox
2002-09-04 21:16           ` Luben Tuikov
2002-09-04 10:37         ` Andries Brouwer [this message]
2002-09-04 10:48           ` Doug Ledford
2002-09-04 11:23           ` Alan Cox
2002-09-04 16:25             ` Rogier Wolff
2002-09-04 19:34               ` Thunder from the hill
2002-09-03 21:24     ` Patrick Mansfield
2002-09-03 22:02       ` James Bottomley
2002-09-03 23:26         ` Alan Cox
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2002-09-02 12:23 CAMTP guest
2002-09-02 15:50 ` Justin T. Gibbs
2002-09-02 18:05   ` Doug Ledford
2002-09-02 19:16     ` CAMTP guest
2002-09-02 19:48       ` Justin T. Gibbs
2002-09-02 19:42     ` Justin T. Gibbs
2002-06-11  2:46 Proposed changes to generic blk tag for use in SCSI (1/3) James Bottomley
2002-06-11  5:50 ` Jens Axboe
2002-06-11 14:29   ` James Bottomley
2002-06-11 14:45     ` Jens Axboe
2002-06-11 16:39       ` James Bottomley
2002-06-13 21:01 ` Doug Ledford
2002-06-13 21:26   ` James Bottomley
2002-06-13 21:50     ` Doug Ledford
2002-06-13 22:09       ` James Bottomley

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