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From: Mike Anderson <andmike@us.ibm.com>
To: James Bottomley <James.Bottomley@steeleye.com>
Cc: Jeremy Higdon <jeremy@classic.engr.sgi.com>,
	Doug Ledford <dledford@redhat.com>,
	Alan Cox <alan@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk>,
	"Justin T. Gibbs" <gibbs@scsiguy.com>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-scsi@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: aic7xxx sets CDR offline, how to reset?
Date: Wed, 4 Sep 2002 10:13:22 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20020904171322.GA1645@beaverton.ibm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <200209041624.g84GOJC02683@localhost.localdomain>

James Bottomley [James.Bottomley@steeleye.com] wrote:
> jeremy@classic.engr.sgi.com said:
> > For example, in Fibrechannel using class 3 (the usual)
> 
> > 	send command (command frame corrupted; device does not receive)
> > 	send barrier (completes normally)
> > 	... (lots of time goes by, many more commands are processed)
> > 	timeout original command whose command frame was corrupted 
> 
> This doesn't look right to me from the SCSI angle  I don't see how you can get 
> a successful disconnect on a command the device doesn't receive (I take it 
> this is some type of Fibre magic?).  Of course, if the device (or its proxy) 
> does receive the command then the ordered queue tag implementation requires 
> that the corrupted frame command be processed prior to the barrier,  this 
> isn't optional if you obey the spec.  Thus, assuming the processor does no 
> integrity checking of the command until it does processing (this should be a 
> big if), then we still must get notification of the failed command before the 
> barrier tag is begun.  Obviously, from that notification we do then race to 
> eliminate the overtaking tags.

In FC class 3 if you are logged into a port then notice of this loss
doesn't happen until a upper level timeout occurs (ULTP?). The loss can
happen prior to the command reaching the device (i.e. the switch can
drop the frame). If a corrupted frame makes it to the device it will be
discarded as there is not much it can do with a frame containing unreliable
data. In FC class 2 frames are ack'd so the recovery can be much more
responsive.


-Mike
-- 
Michael Anderson
andmike@us.ibm.com


  reply	other threads:[~2002-09-04 19:29 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 45+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2002-09-03 14:35 aic7xxx sets CDR offline, how to reset? James Bottomley
2002-09-03 18:23 ` Doug Ledford
2002-09-03 19:09   ` James Bottomley
2002-09-03 20:59     ` Alan Cox
2002-09-03 21:32       ` James Bottomley
2002-09-03 21:54         ` Alan Cox
2002-09-03 22:50         ` Doug Ledford
2002-09-03 23:28           ` Alan Cox
2002-09-04  7:40           ` Jeremy Higdon
2002-09-04 16:24             ` James Bottomley
2002-09-04 17:13               ` Mike Anderson [this message]
2002-09-05  9:50               ` Jeremy Higdon
2002-09-04 16:13           ` James Bottomley
2002-09-04 16:50             ` Justin T. Gibbs
2002-09-05  9:39               ` Jeremy Higdon
2002-09-05 13:35                 ` Justin T. Gibbs
2002-09-03 21:13     ` Doug Ledford
2002-09-03 21:48       ` James Bottomley
2002-09-03 22:42         ` Doug Ledford
2002-09-03 22:52           ` Doug Ledford
2002-09-03 23:29           ` Alan Cox
2002-09-04 21:16           ` Luben Tuikov
2002-09-04 10:37         ` Andries Brouwer
2002-09-04 10:48           ` Doug Ledford
2002-09-04 11:23           ` Alan Cox
2002-09-04 16:25             ` Rogier Wolff
2002-09-04 19:34               ` Thunder from the hill
2002-09-03 21:24     ` Patrick Mansfield
2002-09-03 22:02       ` James Bottomley
2002-09-03 23:26         ` Alan Cox
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2002-09-02 12:23 CAMTP guest
2002-09-02 15:50 ` Justin T. Gibbs
2002-09-02 18:05   ` Doug Ledford
2002-09-02 19:16     ` CAMTP guest
2002-09-02 19:48       ` Justin T. Gibbs
2002-09-02 19:42     ` Justin T. Gibbs
2002-06-11  2:46 Proposed changes to generic blk tag for use in SCSI (1/3) James Bottomley
2002-06-11  5:50 ` Jens Axboe
2002-06-11 14:29   ` James Bottomley
2002-06-11 14:45     ` Jens Axboe
2002-06-11 16:39       ` James Bottomley
2002-06-13 21:01 ` Doug Ledford
2002-06-13 21:26   ` James Bottomley
2002-06-13 21:50     ` Doug Ledford
2002-06-13 22:09       ` James Bottomley

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