From: Mike Anderson <andmike@us.ibm.com>
To: James Bottomley <James.Bottomley@steeleye.com>
Cc: Jeremy Higdon <jeremy@classic.engr.sgi.com>,
Doug Ledford <dledford@redhat.com>,
Alan Cox <alan@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk>,
"Justin T. Gibbs" <gibbs@scsiguy.com>,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-scsi@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: aic7xxx sets CDR offline, how to reset?
Date: Wed, 4 Sep 2002 10:13:22 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20020904171322.GA1645@beaverton.ibm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <200209041624.g84GOJC02683@localhost.localdomain>
James Bottomley [James.Bottomley@steeleye.com] wrote:
> jeremy@classic.engr.sgi.com said:
> > For example, in Fibrechannel using class 3 (the usual)
>
> > send command (command frame corrupted; device does not receive)
> > send barrier (completes normally)
> > ... (lots of time goes by, many more commands are processed)
> > timeout original command whose command frame was corrupted
>
> This doesn't look right to me from the SCSI angle I don't see how you can get
> a successful disconnect on a command the device doesn't receive (I take it
> this is some type of Fibre magic?). Of course, if the device (or its proxy)
> does receive the command then the ordered queue tag implementation requires
> that the corrupted frame command be processed prior to the barrier, this
> isn't optional if you obey the spec. Thus, assuming the processor does no
> integrity checking of the command until it does processing (this should be a
> big if), then we still must get notification of the failed command before the
> barrier tag is begun. Obviously, from that notification we do then race to
> eliminate the overtaking tags.
In FC class 3 if you are logged into a port then notice of this loss
doesn't happen until a upper level timeout occurs (ULTP?). The loss can
happen prior to the command reaching the device (i.e. the switch can
drop the frame). If a corrupted frame makes it to the device it will be
discarded as there is not much it can do with a frame containing unreliable
data. In FC class 2 frames are ack'd so the recovery can be much more
responsive.
-Mike
--
Michael Anderson
andmike@us.ibm.com
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2002-09-04 19:29 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 45+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2002-09-03 14:35 aic7xxx sets CDR offline, how to reset? James Bottomley
2002-09-03 18:23 ` Doug Ledford
2002-09-03 19:09 ` James Bottomley
2002-09-03 20:59 ` Alan Cox
2002-09-03 21:32 ` James Bottomley
2002-09-03 21:54 ` Alan Cox
2002-09-03 22:50 ` Doug Ledford
2002-09-03 23:28 ` Alan Cox
2002-09-04 7:40 ` Jeremy Higdon
2002-09-04 16:24 ` James Bottomley
2002-09-04 17:13 ` Mike Anderson [this message]
2002-09-05 9:50 ` Jeremy Higdon
2002-09-04 16:13 ` James Bottomley
2002-09-04 16:50 ` Justin T. Gibbs
2002-09-05 9:39 ` Jeremy Higdon
2002-09-05 13:35 ` Justin T. Gibbs
2002-09-03 21:13 ` Doug Ledford
2002-09-03 21:48 ` James Bottomley
2002-09-03 22:42 ` Doug Ledford
2002-09-03 22:52 ` Doug Ledford
2002-09-03 23:29 ` Alan Cox
2002-09-04 21:16 ` Luben Tuikov
2002-09-04 10:37 ` Andries Brouwer
2002-09-04 10:48 ` Doug Ledford
2002-09-04 11:23 ` Alan Cox
2002-09-04 16:25 ` Rogier Wolff
2002-09-04 19:34 ` Thunder from the hill
2002-09-03 21:24 ` Patrick Mansfield
2002-09-03 22:02 ` James Bottomley
2002-09-03 23:26 ` Alan Cox
-- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2002-09-02 12:23 CAMTP guest
2002-09-02 15:50 ` Justin T. Gibbs
2002-09-02 18:05 ` Doug Ledford
2002-09-02 19:16 ` CAMTP guest
2002-09-02 19:48 ` Justin T. Gibbs
2002-09-02 19:42 ` Justin T. Gibbs
2002-06-11 2:46 Proposed changes to generic blk tag for use in SCSI (1/3) James Bottomley
2002-06-11 5:50 ` Jens Axboe
2002-06-11 14:29 ` James Bottomley
2002-06-11 14:45 ` Jens Axboe
2002-06-11 16:39 ` James Bottomley
2002-06-13 21:01 ` Doug Ledford
2002-06-13 21:26 ` James Bottomley
2002-06-13 21:50 ` Doug Ledford
2002-06-13 22:09 ` James Bottomley
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