From: Larry McVoy <lm@bitmover.com>
To: Mike Dresser <mdresser_l@windsormachine.com>
Cc: jbradford@dial.pipex.com, ookhoi@humilis.net,
Dieter.Nuetzel@hamburg.de, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
erin_hartin@maxtor.com, sales-mkt@maxtor.com
Subject: Re: ide drive dying?
Date: Tue, 10 Sep 2002 08:29:59 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20020910082959.F4462@work.bitmover.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.33.0209101115060.20848-100000@router.windsormachine.com>; from mdresser_l@windsormachine.com on Tue, Sep 10, 2002 at 11:21:24AM -0400
On Tue, Sep 10, 2002 at 11:21:24AM -0400, Mike Dresser wrote:
> On Tue, 10 Sep 2002 jbradford@dial.pipex.com wrote:
>
> > According this this announcement:
> >
> > http://www.shareholder.com/maxtor/news/20020909-89588.cfm
> >
> > some of their new ATA drives will carry a three-year warranty.
> >
> > John.
>
> Right. Only the MaxLine II. The rest, not including SCSI, are 1 year.
>
> It looks to me that Maxtor is exiting the consumer market. They sell
> their crippled DiamondMax 9/16's, and the existing product lines, to the
> OEM's who don't care about warranty as much.
Well can you blame them? Drive prices are coming down faster than processor
prices and it costs a lot more to produce a drive than a processor (production
costs, not development costs). Drives have parts. The head assembly isn't
free. It's unbelieveable that we can get drives for $1/GB, at least it is
to me. And if any of us think we're getting reliable drives at this price,
a visit from the tooth fairy can't be far behind.
What we do here is mark the date we put a drive into production on the drive
then cycle the drive out of production use in 24 months. We have lots of
build machines so the "old" drives go into those. We also put in 4 drives
for any data we care about (on a 3ware escalade in JBOD mod) and then
mirror the data nightly to /nightly, /weekly, or /monthly. If I'm really
being paranoid, I mix manufacters and release dates in the set of 4 drives
so I drop the likelihood of them all failing at once.
Don't get me wrong, there is no love lost between BitMover and Maxtor,
they aren't a customer and we've had our own problems dealing with them
in the past. However, it seems unfair to get too unhappy with a product
that works as well as it does for the price that you pay. I'd hate to
be in the drive business, it looks like a losing proposition to me.
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Larry McVoy lm at bitmover.com http://www.bitmover.com/lm
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2002-09-10 15:25 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 63+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2002-09-08 0:02 ide drive dying? Dieter Nützel
2002-09-08 17:42 ` jbradford
2002-09-09 1:31 ` Nuitari
2002-09-08 19:27 ` Ed Sweetman
2002-09-08 20:11 ` jbradford
2002-09-09 2:37 ` Nuitari
2002-09-09 12:26 ` Joachim Breuer
2002-09-09 18:17 ` Thunder from the hill
2002-09-09 18:55 ` Mike Dresser
2002-09-10 12:48 ` Ookhoi
2002-09-10 13:59 ` Mike Dresser
2002-09-10 14:56 ` jbradford
2002-09-10 15:21 ` Mike Dresser
2002-09-10 15:29 ` Larry McVoy [this message]
2002-09-10 20:21 ` Andre Hedrick
[not found] <Pine.LNX.4.33.0209062017230.14523-100000@coffee.psychology.mcmaster.ca>
2002-09-07 6:09 ` jbradford
-- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2002-09-06 20:40 Hell.Surfers
2002-09-06 21:01 ` Alan Cox
2002-09-07 1:02 ` Jason L Tibbitts III
2002-09-06 15:13 DevilKin
2002-09-06 15:26 ` Mike Dresser
2002-09-06 15:39 ` Alan Cox
2002-09-06 15:42 ` Mike Dresser
2002-09-06 16:14 ` Billy Harvey
2002-09-06 16:41 ` Mike Dresser
2002-09-06 18:00 ` jbradford
2002-09-06 17:58 ` Mike Dresser
2002-09-06 15:44 ` Richard B. Johnson
2002-09-06 16:19 ` Craig Ruff
2002-09-06 17:28 ` Daniel Egger
2002-09-06 15:36 ` jbradford
2002-09-06 15:55 ` DevilKin
2002-09-06 17:22 ` jbradford
2002-09-06 19:22 ` DevilKin
2002-09-07 9:30 ` Anders Fugmann
2002-09-07 9:37 ` Udo A. Steinberg
2002-09-07 15:54 ` Holger Lubitz
2002-09-07 16:31 ` jbradford
2002-09-07 12:31 ` Daniel Egger
2002-09-07 13:08 ` jbradford
2002-09-07 13:50 ` Daniel Egger
2002-09-07 15:02 ` jbradford
2002-09-07 20:19 ` Daniel Egger
2002-09-07 20:41 ` jbradford
2002-09-07 21:41 ` Alan Cox
2002-09-07 21:41 ` Alan Cox
2002-09-07 22:00 ` jbradford
2002-09-07 23:19 ` David Forrest
2002-09-08 10:56 ` Henning P. Schmiedehausen
2002-09-08 14:14 ` jbradford
2002-09-09 21:59 ` Alan Cox
2002-09-07 22:05 ` Andre Hedrick
2002-09-07 7:08 ` Andre Hedrick
2002-09-06 15:37 ` mbs
2002-09-06 15:54 ` Alan Cox
2002-09-06 15:38 ` Alan Cox
2002-09-06 17:33 ` Daniel Egger
2002-09-06 20:31 ` Alan Cox
2002-09-06 15:44 ` mbs
2002-09-06 17:46 ` mbs
2002-09-06 20:32 ` Alan Cox
2002-09-07 12:34 ` Daniel Egger
2002-09-07 7:02 ` Andre Hedrick
2002-09-07 7:42 ` jbradford
2002-09-07 7:50 ` Andre Hedrick
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