From: jbradford@dial.pipex.com
To: martin.knoblauch@mscsoftware.com
Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: XFS?
Date: Thu, 12 Sep 2002 16:53:52 +0100 (BST) [thread overview]
Message-ID: <200209121553.g8CFrrEh003646@darkstar.example.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <200209121727.50745.martin.knoblauch@mscsoftware.com> from "Martin Knoblauch" at Sep 12, 2002 05:27:50 PM
> >> In my opinion the non-inclosure in the mainline kernel is the most
> >> important reason not to use XFS (or any other FS). Which in turn
> >> massively reduces the tester base. It is a shame, because for some
> type
> >> of applications it performs great, or better than anything else.
> >
> >
> >On the other hand, filesystem corruption bugs are one of the worst type
> >to suffer from. We absolutely don't want to include filesystems
> >without at least a reasonable proven track record in the mainline
> >kernel, and therefore encourage the various distributions to use them,
> >incase any bugs do show up. Look how long a buffer overflow existed in
> >Zlib unnoticed.
>
> If enclosure in "major" distribuitons defines mainline for you, I have
> to agree. Otherwise, how do you get "a proven track record in
> mainline" without having it in the mainline kernel ? :-)
Sorry, I meant we should be wary about what is moved from being development code to non-development code in the stable kernel.
> In any case, one could always mark XFS as "experimental" for some time.
Exactly, I think we should.
The distributions will 'mirror' that, by including support, but not making it obvious unless you poke around looking for it - so it gets the new feature out to the more users, but doesn't present it as just another option for newbies to select without realising what they are doing.
> >EXT2 is a very capable filesystem, and has *years* of proven
> >reliability. That's why I'm not going to switch away from it for
> >critical work any time soon.
>
> sure, if you can live with the fsck time on your 200 GB (or bigger)
> filesystem after the occasional crash.
But Linux doesn't crash... :-)
John.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2002-09-12 15:41 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 78+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2002-09-12 15:27 XFS? Martin Knoblauch
2002-09-12 15:53 ` jbradford [this message]
2002-09-12 17:06 ` XFS? Thunder from the hill
2002-09-12 17:28 ` XFS? Joe Kellner
2002-09-12 17:44 ` XFS? Thunder from the hill
2002-09-12 17:54 ` XFS? Joe Kellner
2002-09-12 17:09 ` XFS? Bernd Petrovitsch
2002-09-12 17:45 ` XFS? Thunder from the hill
-- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2002-09-13 10:52 XFS? Kostadin Karaivanov
2002-09-13 10:57 ` XFS? Christoph Hellwig
2002-09-13 7:47 XFS? Ivan Ivanov
2002-09-13 9:32 ` XFS? Nero
2002-09-13 10:22 ` XFS? Ivan Ivanov
2002-09-13 11:07 ` XFS? Filip Van Raemdonck
2002-09-13 12:42 ` XFS? Hans Reiser
2002-09-13 9:53 ` XFS? Remco Post
2002-09-13 11:38 ` XFS? Hans Reiser
2002-09-13 12:47 ` XFS? Jesse Pollard
2002-09-13 13:33 ` XFS? Ian S. Nelson
[not found] <3D80CCEF.7070007@tmsusa.com>
2002-09-12 17:53 ` XFS? jbradford
[not found] <200209121553.g8CFrrEh003646@dstl.gov.uk>
2002-09-12 16:03 ` XFS? Tony Gale
2002-09-13 5:58 ` XFS? Tomas Szepe
2002-09-12 13:54 XFS? Martin Knoblauch
2002-09-12 13:42 XFS? Martin Knoblauch
2002-09-12 15:00 ` XFS? jbradford
2002-09-13 11:53 ` XFS? Bill Davidsen
2002-09-13 12:27 ` XFS? jbradford
2002-09-13 13:21 ` XFS? jlnance
[not found] <1059487013@toto.iv>
2002-09-11 0:31 ` XFS? Peter Chubb
[not found] <20020909193820.GA2007@lnuxlab.ath.cx.suse.lists.linux.kernel>
[not found] ` <Pine.LNX.4.44.0209091457590.3793-100000@hawkeye.luckynet.adm.suse.lists.linux.kernel>
2002-09-09 21:12 ` XFS? Andi Kleen
2002-09-09 21:20 ` XFS? Shawn
2002-09-09 21:27 ` XFS? Robert Love
2002-09-10 17:15 ` XFS? Mike Galbraith
2002-09-10 19:23 ` XFS? Shawn
2002-09-10 19:29 ` XFS? Robert Love
2002-09-10 19:33 ` XFS? Thunder from the hill
2002-09-11 0:33 ` XFS? Bryan Whitehead
2002-09-10 20:06 ` XFS? John Alvord
2002-09-10 20:17 ` XFS? Hans Reiser
2002-09-10 20:17 ` XFS? Joe Kellner
2002-09-10 20:26 ` XFS? David Lang
2002-09-10 20:31 ` XFS? Tomas Szepe
2002-09-11 2:34 ` XFS? Bernd Eckenfels
2002-09-10 22:18 ` XFS? Nick LeRoy
2002-09-10 20:34 ` XFS? Tomas Szepe
2002-09-10 21:01 ` XFS? Steve Lord
2002-09-11 8:43 ` XFS? jw schultz
2002-09-11 15:20 ` XFS? Nick LeRoy
2002-09-11 17:08 ` XFS? Hans Reiser
2002-09-11 18:24 ` XFS? Gerhard Mack
2002-09-11 18:54 ` XFS? Lorenzo Allegrucci
2002-09-12 18:25 ` XFS? Bryan Whitehead
2002-09-12 18:33 ` XFS? Nikita Danilov
2002-09-13 11:44 ` XFS? Bill Davidsen
2002-09-13 12:44 ` XFS? Hans Reiser
2002-09-13 15:47 ` XFS? Bill Davidsen
2002-09-12 23:38 ` XFS? Samuel Flory
2002-09-11 21:21 ` XFS? jw schultz
2002-09-11 22:41 ` XFS? Nick LeRoy
2002-09-11 23:01 ` XFS? Robert Varga
2002-09-12 2:48 ` XFS? jw schultz
2002-09-11 4:56 ` XFS? Mike Galbraith
2002-09-11 14:55 ` XFS? Shawn
2002-09-11 17:52 ` XFS? Mike Galbraith
2002-09-11 15:12 ` XFS? Bill Davidsen
2002-09-11 16:03 ` XFS? Alan Cox
2002-09-11 18:55 ` XFS? Eric Sandeen
2002-09-11 21:37 ` XFS? Alan Cox
2002-09-09 19:38 XFS? khromy
[not found] ` <3D7CFEE5.3030600@netscape.net>
2002-09-09 20:08 ` XFS? Wade
2002-09-09 20:16 ` XFS? Tomas Szepe
2002-09-09 20:43 ` XFS? Arador
2002-09-09 21:18 ` XFS? Shawn
2002-09-09 22:31 ` XFS? Rik van Riel
2002-09-10 6:23 ` XFS? Wade
2002-09-10 13:24 ` XFS? Gerhard Mack
2002-09-09 21:00 ` XFS? Thunder from the hill
2002-09-09 22:29 ` XFS? Joe Kellner
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