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From: Rogier Wolff <R.E.Wolff@BitWizard.nl>
To: Xavier Bestel <xavier.bestel@free.fr>
Cc: venom@sns.it, louie miranda <louie@chikka.com>,
	Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: Hi is this critical??
Date: Tue, 17 Sep 2002 10:40:10 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20020917104010.A6175@bitwizard.nl> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1032184041.7199.14.camel@bip>

On Mon, Sep 16, 2002 at 03:47:20PM +0200, Xavier Bestel wrote:
> Le lun 16/09/2002 à 15:37, venom@sns.it a écrit :
> > 
> > yes, this is critical.
> > It means that your HD is going to break soon.
> > 
> 
> Maybe these error messages should be a bit less cryptic for the
> uninitiated. Or is there a userspace utility to convert theses to
> luser-understandable messages ?

The problem is that you're going to leave out details to do this. 
This means that even the experts don't know what happened. 

>From the reported message I was able to pinpoint the exact spot on
his hdb2 partition where his drive has a bad spot, and I can calculate
the size of his hdb1 partition (In this case probably unneccesary
information, but still...). 

If the error message says something like: 

	"your harddrive hdb seems to be failing. Replace it NOW!"

then I can't make a valid decision about this. I have had a WD 31600
drive which had the trouble that the last 400M would go "bad": Lots of
bad blocks. In that situation I had to monitor the drive to just have
bad blocks in the last 400M or so, while I used only the first 1000M.
(Yes, only for "tmp" stuff.)

I also have a drive that has exactly ONE bad block. Run it through
"badblocks", and you can use the disk just fine. A read-ahead
might hit on the bad block, leading to funny error messages. However
I DO need to know which block.

MAC and Windows both try to give "simple" error messages. As a 
knowledgeable person I then am confronted with:

	"Something went wrong. Contact your sysadmin if you can't
	fix it yourself". 

Well, I -=AM=- the sysadmin, and would like to know what went wrong. 
Otherwise I can't fix it. This is NOT the way to go. 

			Roger. 

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  parent reply	other threads:[~2002-09-17  8:35 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 33+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2002-09-16 20:05 2.4.19 - not a real problem raptor
2002-09-16 13:31 ` Hi is this critical?? louie miranda
2002-09-16 13:34   ` DevilKin
2002-09-16 13:37   ` venom
2002-09-16 13:47     ` Xavier Bestel
2002-09-16 14:16       ` Mark Veltzer
2002-09-16 14:14         ` Xavier Bestel
2002-09-16 15:57           ` venom
2002-09-16 23:23             ` Nuitari
2002-09-16 18:27               ` jbradford
2002-09-16 22:46                 ` venom
2002-09-17  5:18                   ` Nuitari
2002-09-17  8:02                     ` jbradford
2002-09-17  8:20                       ` Andre Hedrick
2002-09-17 10:41                         ` Alan Cox
2002-09-17 11:09                           ` Russell King
2002-09-17 11:17                             ` Alan Cox
2002-09-17 12:02                               ` Russell King
2002-09-17 12:17                                 ` jbradford
2002-09-17 12:02                               ` jbradford
2002-09-17 18:39                                 ` Bill Davidsen
2002-09-18  6:00                                 ` Daniel Berlin
2002-09-17 17:34                             ` Andre Hedrick
2002-09-17 17:54                               ` Russell King
2002-09-17 19:30                                 ` jbradford
2002-09-17 18:34                             ` Bill Davidsen
2002-09-18  5:56                             ` Daniel Berlin
2002-09-17 18:23                           ` Bill Davidsen
2002-09-16 14:43       ` Russell King
2002-09-17  8:40       ` Rogier Wolff [this message]
2002-09-17  9:03         ` jbradford
2002-09-16 14:53   ` Alan Cox
2002-10-05 12:58 ` 2.4.19 - not a real problem Adrian Bunk

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