From: Matt Porter <porter@cox.net>
To: Rob Landley <landley@trommello.org>
Cc: Matt Porter <porter@cox.net>,
"David S. Miller" <davem@redhat.com>,
giduru@yahoo.com, andre@linux-ide.org,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: The end of embedded Linux?
Date: Tue, 8 Oct 2002 08:04:45 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20021008080445.B21266@home.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20021008005030.C0DDF630@merlin.webofficenow.com>; from landley@trommello.org on Mon, Oct 07, 2002 at 03:50:43PM -0400
On Mon, Oct 07, 2002 at 03:50:43PM -0400, Rob Landley wrote:
> On Monday 07 October 2002 07:20 pm, Matt Porter wrote:
> >
> > > Or they could play in the source code if their needs are sufficiently
> > > unusual, which more or less by definition they will be in this case. No
> > > matter how thorough you are here, there will be things they want to tweak
> > > (or would if they knew about them) that there is no config option for.
> > > "make menuconfig" is not a complete replacement for knowing C in all
> > > cases.
> >
> > True, but there are a number of people out there who want to do say
> > a kernel port to XYZ custom board. They learn some basic kernel
> > knowledge, but we can't expect them to be a guru of everything to
> > get some work done.
>
> Another very real option here is Documentation/tinykernel.txt. (Possibly
> even going so far as a brief mention of uclibc and busybox/tinylogin, but
> mostly just about choping down the kernel for embedding in nosehair trimmers
> and electric toothbrushes and such.)
I don't see these as mutually exclusive. Documentation falls out of
date because it is often not maintained with the code. This would
certainly be the case of a file detailing means to tweak a wide
array of settings in the kernel.
Having the settings controlled somewhere in the kernel forces the
settings to not be broken as we move forward. This is the same
simple reason we all try to get our drivers and board ports in
the kernel proper (as being discussed elsewhere in this thread).
I believe some finer grained controls (less than 8000 hopefully)
coupled with some basic docs pointing out where they can be configured,
a description of some of the more interesting ones, and mentioning some
non-kernel tools would be quite appropriate.
Regards,
--
Matt Porter
porter@cox.net
This is Linux Country. On a quiet night, you can hear Windows reboot.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2002-10-08 14:34 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 115+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2002-10-05 19:36 The end of embedded Linux? Gigi Duru
2002-10-05 19:46 ` Francois Romieu
2002-10-05 19:49 ` Ben Greear
2002-10-05 19:53 ` Andre Hedrick
2002-10-05 20:52 ` Gigi Duru
2002-10-05 20:58 ` Mark Mielke
2002-10-06 1:54 ` Andre Hedrick
2002-10-07 23:28 ` Gigi Duru
2002-10-06 0:46 ` Rik van Riel
2002-10-06 1:52 ` Andre Hedrick
2002-10-06 20:20 ` Gigi Duru
2002-10-07 2:01 ` Andre Hedrick
2002-10-06 4:28 ` David S. Miller
2002-10-06 16:53 ` Alan Cox
2002-10-06 18:50 ` george anzinger
2002-10-07 10:06 ` simon
2002-10-07 10:36 ` David S. Miller
2002-10-07 11:57 ` Russell King
2002-10-07 12:10 ` Abraham vd Merwe
2002-10-07 14:12 ` Alan Cox
2002-10-07 16:05 ` Nicolas Pitre
2002-10-07 16:02 ` David S. Miller
2002-10-07 16:20 ` Benjamin LaHaise
2002-10-07 16:38 ` Nicolas Pitre
2002-10-07 16:53 ` Mark Mielke
2002-10-07 17:45 ` Nicolas Pitre
2002-10-07 18:11 ` Richard B. Johnson
2002-10-07 18:54 ` george anzinger
2002-10-07 19:11 ` Russell King
2002-10-07 20:05 ` Ben Greear
2002-10-12 10:08 ` Richard Zidlicky
2002-10-14 12:26 ` Richard Zidlicky
2002-10-07 17:15 ` simon
2002-10-07 17:24 ` David S. Miller
2002-10-07 20:22 ` Alan Cox
2002-10-07 22:22 ` Christer Weinigel
2002-10-07 22:52 ` Alan Cox
2002-10-07 22:56 ` Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo
2002-10-09 11:19 ` Jamie Lokier
2002-10-08 10:11 ` simon
2002-10-08 11:11 ` jbradford
2002-10-08 11:53 ` Richard B. Johnson
2002-10-08 12:09 ` jbradford
2002-10-08 11:25 ` Vojtech Pavlik
2002-10-08 11:25 ` Alan Cox
2002-10-08 20:04 ` David S. Miller
2002-10-08 22:53 ` Alan Cox
2002-10-08 22:38 ` David S. Miller
2002-10-08 11:27 ` jw schultz
2002-10-09 7:37 ` Alexander Kellett
2002-10-09 11:49 ` Alan Cox
2002-10-09 11:53 ` Richard B. Johnson
2002-10-09 19:17 ` jbradford
2002-10-09 23:49 ` jw schultz
2002-10-13 16:30 ` Eric W. Biederman
2002-10-09 12:42 ` Ian Molton
2002-10-10 4:47 ` Shane Nay
2002-10-08 15:52 ` David Lang
2002-10-09 10:53 ` David Woodhouse
2002-10-07 10:55 ` Xavier Bestel
2002-10-07 17:20 ` simon
2002-10-07 22:59 ` Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo
2002-10-07 23:18 ` Alan Cox
2002-10-07 16:15 ` Matt Porter
2002-10-07 16:22 ` Matt Porter
2002-10-07 16:41 ` Rob Landley
2002-10-07 21:56 ` Gigi Duru
2002-10-07 19:44 ` Rob Landley
2002-10-08 13:22 ` Thomas Molina
2002-10-08 16:34 ` Rob Landley
2002-10-07 23:20 ` Matt Porter
2002-10-07 19:50 ` Rob Landley
2002-10-08 15:04 ` Matt Porter [this message]
2002-10-08 16:52 ` Rob Landley
2002-10-09 11:38 ` Adrian Bunk
2002-10-09 12:15 ` [patch] show Fusion MPT dialog only when CONFIG_BLK_DEV_SD is set Adrian Bunk
2002-10-09 19:55 ` Rob Landley
2002-10-09 19:54 ` [PATCH]: Move Fusion MPT config menu into scsi driver support (was Re: The end of embedded Linux?) Rob Landley
2002-10-07 23:01 ` The end of embedded Linux? Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo
2002-10-07 23:23 ` Alan Cox
2002-10-07 23:47 ` Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo
2002-10-08 0:06 ` Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo
2002-10-08 1:23 ` Xcytame@yahoo.es
2002-10-06 13:02 ` Ian Molton
2002-10-05 19:53 ` jbradford
2002-10-05 22:23 ` Oliver Xymoron
2002-10-05 23:28 ` Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo
2002-10-06 1:57 ` Andre Hedrick
2002-10-12 4:01 ` Daniel Phillips
2002-10-12 4:09 ` William Lee Irwin III
2002-10-06 0:36 ` Rik van Riel
2002-10-06 0:41 ` Zwane Mwaikambo
2002-10-06 0:50 ` William Lee Irwin III
2002-10-06 1:00 ` Zwane Mwaikambo
2002-10-06 0:44 ` William Lee Irwin III
2002-10-06 22:24 ` Aaron Lehmann
2002-10-06 22:54 ` William Lee Irwin III
2002-10-07 1:33 ` Andre Hedrick
2002-10-07 22:25 ` Andre Hedrick
2002-10-07 9:10 ` Jan-Benedict Glaw
[not found] <Pine.LNX.4.33.0210061854190.24860-100000@coffee.psychology.mcmaster.ca>
2002-10-07 5:38 ` Gigi Duru
2002-10-07 5:42 ` Rik van Riel
2002-10-07 6:06 ` Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo
2002-10-07 12:04 ` Richard B. Johnson
2002-10-07 12:00 ` David S. Miller
2002-10-07 12:32 ` Richard B. Johnson
2002-10-07 12:29 ` David S. Miller
2002-10-07 13:06 ` Dana Lacoste
-- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2002-10-07 20:04 Hell.Surfers
2002-10-07 23:01 ` David S. Miller
2002-10-08 0:10 ` jw schultz
2002-10-08 9:36 Hell.Surfers
2002-10-08 9:51 Hell.Surfers
2002-10-08 20:00 ` David S. Miller
2002-10-08 12:05 Hicks, Jamey
2002-10-12 20:45 Hell.Surfers
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