From: Shawn <core@enodev.com>
To: Oliver Neukum <oliver@neukum.name>
Cc: Christoph Hellwig <hch@infradead.org>, Shawn <core@enodev.com>,
Michael Clark <michael@metaparadigm.com>,
Mark Peloquin <markpeloquin@hotmail.com>,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, torvalds@transmeta.com,
evms-devel@lists.sourceforge.net
Subject: Re: [Evms-devel] Re: Linux v2.5.42
Date: Mon, 14 Oct 2002 16:55:34 -0500 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20021014165534.C28737@q.mn.rr.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <200210142348.29628.oliver@neukum.name>; from oliver@neukum.name on Mon, Oct 14, 2002 at 11:48:29PM +0200
On 10/14, Oliver Neukum said something like:
> Am Montag, 14. Oktober 2002 18:21 schrieb Christoph Hellwig:
> > On Mon, Oct 14, 2002 at 09:20:48AM -0500, Shawn wrote:
> > > Having said all that, given that your premises are true regarding the
> > > code design problems you have with EVMS, you have a valid point about
> > > including it in mainline. The question is, is this good enough to ignore
> > > having a logical device management system?!?
> >
> > It is not good enough to ignore it. It is good enough to postpone
> > integration for 2.7.
>
> No, that is not an option. Either evms or lvm2 it must be.
> Switching later might be difficult. So it has to be decided
> quite soon.
I know this has the potential of being an unfortunate situation for
many, but edicts do not help.
If neither LVM2 or EVMS are truly ready, no one is beholden to anyone
else as to anything's inclusion in mainline.
It's a matter of marketing so say whether Linux has volume management.
If all the distros have LVM in some form, then "Linux has an LVM". So,
no one can really say "Linux doesn't have an LVM so it's not enterprise
ready.
It's just really inconvenient for those who
1. want to run a devel kernel
2. want to run an LVM
3. want to be really really up-to-date
because we (the testers) have to do a lot of the forward porting grunt
work fixing all the patch rejects and compile errors that inevitably
come.
--
Shawn Leas
core@enodev.com
I have a hobby...I have the world's largest collection of sea shells.
I keep it scattered on beaches all over the world. Maybe you've seen
some of it...
-- Stephen Wright
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2002-10-14 21:50 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 53+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2002-10-12 17:14 Linux v2.5.42 Mark Peloquin
2002-10-12 19:34 ` Alan Cox
2002-10-12 19:37 ` jbradford
2002-10-13 23:55 ` Rob Landley
2002-10-13 12:41 ` [Evms-devel] " Michael Clark
2002-10-13 13:49 ` Christoph Hellwig
2002-10-13 15:16 ` Michael Clark
2002-10-13 15:35 ` Christoph Hellwig
2002-10-13 16:11 ` Brian Jackson
2002-10-13 16:26 ` Arjan van de Ven
2002-10-13 17:06 ` Brian Jackson
2002-10-13 19:58 ` Mark Hahn
2002-10-13 19:57 ` Rik van Riel
2002-10-13 20:26 ` Sean Neakums
2002-10-24 11:45 ` Alexander Kellett
2002-10-13 19:59 ` Andrew Morton
2002-10-13 20:24 ` Bernd Eckenfels
2002-10-14 15:11 ` Christoph Hellwig
2002-10-14 22:27 ` Bernd Eckenfels
2002-10-14 4:55 ` [Evms-devel] " Andreas Dilger
2002-10-13 17:46 ` Robert Love
2002-10-13 18:34 ` Brian Jackson
2002-10-14 4:23 ` [Evms-devel] " Andreas Dilger
2002-10-14 16:08 ` Christoph Hellwig
2002-10-14 14:45 ` Christoph Hellwig
2002-10-13 16:18 ` [Evms-devel] " Michael Clark
2002-10-13 17:10 ` Alexander Viro
2002-10-13 17:41 ` Michael Clark
2002-10-14 4:43 ` Andreas Dilger
2002-10-14 16:16 ` Christoph Hellwig
2002-10-14 15:21 ` Christoph Hellwig
2002-10-14 14:42 ` Shawn
2002-10-14 15:15 ` Christoph Hellwig
2002-10-14 14:20 ` Shawn
2002-10-14 16:15 ` Rik van Riel
2002-10-14 21:34 ` Shawn
2002-10-14 16:21 ` Christoph Hellwig
2002-10-14 16:38 ` Jeff Garzik
2002-10-14 21:47 ` Shawn
2002-10-15 7:42 ` Heinz J . Mauelshagen
2002-10-14 21:48 ` Oliver Neukum
2002-10-14 21:55 ` Shawn [this message]
2002-10-14 22:35 ` Oliver Neukum
2002-10-14 22:53 ` Shawn
2002-10-14 23:04 ` Oliver Neukum
2002-10-14 23:16 ` Alexander Viro
2002-10-14 23:30 ` Oliver Neukum
2002-10-15 0:10 ` Andrew Clausen
2002-10-14 22:57 ` Alexander Viro
2002-10-13 13:41 ` Christoph Hellwig
-- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2002-10-14 23:57 [Evms-devel] " Mark Peloquin
2002-10-15 14:51 Steve Pratt
2002-10-15 21:18 ` Andrew Clausen
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