From: Andi Kleen <ak@muc.de>
To: Andrea Arcangeli <andrea@suse.de>
Cc: Jeff Dike <jdike@karaya.com>, Andi Kleen <ak@muc.de>,
john stultz <johnstul@us.ibm.com>,
Linus Torvalds <torvalds@transmeta.com>,
lkml <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
george anzinger <george@mvista.com>,
Stephen Hemminger <shemminger@osdl.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] linux-2.5.43_vsyscall_A0
Date: Sat, 19 Oct 2002 06:45:56 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20021019044556.GA22201@averell> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20021019041019.GI23930@dualathlon.random>
On Sat, Oct 19, 2002 at 06:10:19AM +0200, Andrea Arcangeli wrote:
> On Fri, Oct 18, 2002 at 11:49:59PM -0500, Jeff Dike wrote:
> > ak@muc.de said:
> > > Guess you'll have some problems then with UML on x86-64, which always
> > > uses vgettimeofday. But it's only used for gettimeofday() currently,
> > > perhaps it's not that bad when the UML child runs with the host's
> > > time.
> >
> > It's not horrible, but it's still broken. There are people who depend
> > on UML being able to keep its own time separately from the host.
> >
> > > I guess it would be possible to add some support for UML to map own
> > > code over the vsyscall reserved locations. UML would need to use the
> > > syscalls then. But it'll be likely ugly.
> >
> > Yeah, it would be.
> >
> > My preferred solution would be for libc to ask the kernel where the vsyscall
> > area is. That's reasonably clean and virtualizable. Andrea doesn't like it
> > because it adds a few instructions to the vsyscall address calculation.
>
> yes, my preferred solution is still a runtime /proc entry that turns off
> vsyscalls completely by root so you could trap gettimeofday/time via the
> usual ptrace. That would be zero cost. Of course this would be needed
Ok, a sysctl that modifies a variable in the vsyscall page and is
tested by the code. That would be an option, I agree.
For the locked TSC code we will need something like that anyways,
so that locked TSC can force a syscall.
-Andi
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2002-10-19 4:40 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 44+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2002-10-18 22:57 [PATCH] linux-2.5.43_vsyscall_A0 john stultz
2002-10-18 22:58 ` [EXAMPLE CODE] linux-2.5.43_vsyscall_A0 john stultz
2002-10-19 3:52 ` [PATCH] linux-2.5.43_vsyscall_A0 Jeff Dike
2002-10-19 3:10 ` Andi Kleen
2002-10-19 4:49 ` Jeff Dike
2002-10-19 4:02 ` Andi Kleen
2002-10-19 4:16 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2002-10-20 2:59 ` Andi Kleen
2002-10-20 6:44 ` Elladan
2002-10-20 9:27 ` [discuss] " Andi Kleen
2002-10-20 10:58 ` Elladan
2002-10-20 11:20 ` Andi Kleen
2002-10-20 14:51 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2002-10-21 16:49 ` george anzinger
2002-10-20 13:19 ` Andreas Jaeger
2002-10-20 14:59 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2002-10-19 4:10 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2002-10-19 4:45 ` Andi Kleen [this message]
2002-10-19 5:01 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2002-10-19 23:43 ` Jeff Dike
2002-10-20 0:15 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2002-10-20 2:03 ` Jeff Dike
2002-10-20 2:33 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2002-10-22 5:07 ` Jeff Dike
2002-10-22 4:15 ` Andi Kleen
2002-10-22 4:29 ` Andrew Morton
2002-10-22 9:39 ` Alan Cox
2002-10-22 16:12 ` Andrew Morton
2002-10-22 5:08 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2002-10-22 5:27 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2002-10-22 7:24 ` Elladan
2002-10-22 7:40 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2002-10-23 5:12 ` Elladan
2002-10-23 5:43 ` Elladan
2002-10-23 17:51 ` Gerrit Huizenga
2002-10-21 15:43 ` Stephen Hemminger
2002-10-21 16:26 ` Andi Kleen
2002-10-21 17:10 ` john stultz
2002-10-19 19:14 ` Bill Davidsen
2002-10-20 1:50 ` Rik van Riel
2002-10-20 2:56 ` Andi Kleen
2002-10-24 11:24 ` Pavel Machek
2002-10-24 11:24 ` Pavel Machek
2002-10-19 22:36 ` Ton Hospel
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