From: "Stephen C. Tweedie" <sct@redhat.com>
To: Russell Coker <russell@coker.com.au>
Cc: "Stephen C. Tweedie" <sct@redhat.com>,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-security-module@wirex.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH] remove sys_security
Date: Wed, 23 Oct 2002 12:59:07 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20021023125907.G2732@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <200210231343.55811.russell@coker.com.au>; from russell@coker.com.au on Wed, Oct 23, 2002 at 01:43:55PM +0200
Hi,
On Wed, Oct 23, 2002 at 01:43:55PM +0200, Russell Coker wrote:
> On Wed, 23 Oct 2002 02:35, Stephen C. Tweedie wrote:
> > > "system_u:object_r:var_log_t") then how would I go about doing it other
> > > than through a modified open system call?
> > With a "setesid(2)" syscall to set the effective sid.
> Good idea, however there are two potential problems that I can see.
>
> When creating a file the UID/GID name space for the file is the same as that
> for the process. In SE Linux the name space for files to be created does not
> intersect the name space of the processes. This makes it much less clean
> than setfsuid().
setfsuid() creates credentials which are _only_ applied to file
operations. The namespace happens to be the same one that applies to
processes, but there's nothing that requires that to be the case, and
if you have a corresponding setfssid() to set the effective set for fs
access, you're explicitly requesting the fs namespace, not the process
one.
> Secondly there is the issue of a lack of atomicity. Is there a potential for
> a signal handler to create a file between the setesid() and creat() in the
> main code? I guess the API open_secure() could remain the same and block all
> signals for it's operation...
Definitely. Application writers will need to be aware of that, just
as they have to be aware of the same for setfsuid today. But when
you've got signal handlers doing complex work, you've got all sorts of
races opening up, and trying to fix every single one of them by
inventing new syscalls for every single combination of operation that
the app might want to do atomically makes no sense!
--Stephen
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2002-10-23 11:53 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 99+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2002-10-17 18:50 [PATCH] remove sys_security Christoph Hellwig
2002-10-17 18:53 ` Greg KH
2002-10-17 18:58 ` Christoph Hellwig
2002-10-17 19:07 ` Greg KH
2002-10-17 20:04 ` Christoph Hellwig
2002-10-17 20:10 ` Greg KH
2002-10-17 20:12 ` Christoph Hellwig
2002-10-18 7:04 ` Crispin Cowan
2002-10-18 7:07 ` David S. Miller
2002-10-18 8:31 ` Crispin Cowan
2002-10-18 8:29 ` David S. Miller
2002-10-18 12:52 ` Christoph Hellwig
2002-10-18 15:04 ` Greg KH
2002-10-19 2:05 ` Crispin Cowan
2002-10-18 7:11 ` Greg KH
2002-10-18 7:28 ` Alexander Viro
2002-10-18 9:02 ` Crispin Cowan
2002-10-18 13:05 ` Christoph Hellwig
2002-10-18 15:14 ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2002-10-18 15:18 ` Christoph Hellwig
2002-10-18 16:30 ` Russell Coker
2002-10-18 16:33 ` Christoph Hellwig
2002-10-18 16:53 ` Greg KH
2002-10-18 16:54 ` Russell Coker
2002-10-18 17:15 ` Stephen Smalley
2002-10-18 22:36 ` Chris Wright
2002-10-21 13:54 ` Mike Wray
2002-10-21 14:09 ` Christoph Hellwig
2002-10-21 16:44 ` Mike Wray
2002-10-21 17:36 ` Christoph Hellwig
2002-10-18 20:36 ` David Wagner
2002-10-18 17:44 ` Stephen Smalley
2002-10-18 16:38 ` Russell Coker
2002-10-18 16:52 ` Richard B. Johnson
2002-10-18 9:09 ` David Wagner
2002-10-18 10:14 ` Russell Coker
2002-10-18 12:50 ` Christoph Hellwig
2002-10-17 20:30 ` Jeff Garzik
2002-10-17 21:00 ` Russell Coker
2002-10-17 21:10 ` Jeff Garzik
2002-10-17 21:37 ` Russell Coker
2002-10-17 21:49 ` Alexander Viro
2002-10-17 22:14 ` Russell Coker
2002-10-17 22:22 ` Andreas Dilger
2002-10-23 0:35 ` Stephen C. Tweedie
2002-10-23 11:43 ` Russell Coker
2002-10-23 11:59 ` Stephen C. Tweedie [this message]
2002-10-23 14:27 ` Stephen Smalley
2002-10-23 14:54 ` Stephen C. Tweedie
2002-10-23 16:09 ` Stephen Smalley
2002-10-23 16:24 ` Christoph Hellwig
2002-10-23 16:34 ` Stephen Smalley
2002-10-23 16:36 ` Christoph Hellwig
2002-10-23 16:51 ` Stephen Smalley
2002-10-24 6:26 ` Nathan Scott
2002-10-24 8:45 ` Russell Coker
2002-10-17 20:45 ` Russell Coker
2002-10-21 13:57 ` Alan Cox
2002-10-21 21:12 ` Crispin Cowan
2002-10-21 21:17 ` Greg KH
2002-10-22 12:22 ` Stephen Smalley
2002-10-17 20:20 ` Russell Coker
2002-10-17 20:27 ` Christoph Hellwig
2002-10-17 20:28 ` Greg KH
2002-10-17 19:05 ` Alexander Viro
2002-10-17 20:18 ` David S. Miller
2002-10-17 20:36 ` Greg KH
2002-10-17 20:38 ` David S. Miller
2002-10-17 20:58 ` Greg KH
2002-10-17 20:58 ` David S. Miller
2002-10-17 22:09 ` Greg KH
2002-10-17 22:07 ` David S. Miller
2002-10-17 22:19 ` Greg KH
2002-10-18 8:00 ` Crispin Cowan
2002-10-18 7:57 ` David S. Miller
2002-10-18 13:08 ` Christoph Hellwig
2002-10-17 21:54 ` David Wagner
2002-10-17 22:36 ` David S. Miller
2002-10-17 23:04 ` Chris Wright
2002-10-17 23:08 ` David S. Miller
2002-10-18 14:24 ` Jakob Oestergaard
2002-10-17 22:51 ` Andreas Steinmetz
2002-10-17 22:51 ` David S. Miller
2002-10-18 17:47 ` Daniel Egger
2002-10-17 23:00 ` Jeff Garzik
2002-10-17 22:56 ` David S. Miller
2002-10-17 23:09 ` Greg KH
2002-10-17 23:10 ` Chris Wright
2002-10-17 23:10 ` Andreas Steinmetz
2002-10-18 13:11 ` Christoph Hellwig
2002-10-17 23:11 ` Greg KH
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2002-10-18 9:25 ` Andi Kleen
2002-10-18 9:36 ` Crispin Cowan
2002-10-18 9:44 ` Andi Kleen
2002-10-18 9:55 ` Russell Coker
2002-10-18 10:13 ` Andi Kleen
2002-10-18 17:24 ` Rik van Riel
2002-10-18 11:43 ` Andreas Ferber
[not found] <20021023155457.L2732@redhat.com.suse.lists.linux.kernel>
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2002-10-23 16:33 ` Andi Kleen
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