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From: Rogier Wolff <R.E.Wolff@BitWizard.nl>
To: Stephen Satchell <list@fluent2.pyramid.net>,
	hps@intermeta.de, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: One for the Security Guru's
Date: Sat, 26 Oct 2002 12:38:01 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20021026123801.C16359@bitwizard.nl> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20021025134723.GZ15886@ns>

On Fri, Oct 25, 2002 at 09:47:23AM -0400, Stephen Frost wrote:
> Eh, it depends on how you look at it, but...  The cisco includes support
> for checking out high-level protocols, such as HTTP.  Basically you can

So, your PIX is looking at the HTTP requests, and it is validating
them. Fine. Now what is the largest HTTP request that you're going
to allow? 1k? 10k? 100k? 

The PIX is NOT filtering the size of the HTTP request. It will happily
allow a multimegabyte request to come through. Is that exploiting a bug
in your http server? You don't know. And the PIX doesn't help. 

When I encountered a PIX, multimegabyte HTTP requests were valid, and
the PIX screwed them up. A slight thinko on the side of the PIX 
programmers. 

The PIX HTTP filtering may give you some extra controls (I hear you can
do URL based filtering.... Wow!). Don't you have that control on your 
webserver?

			Roger. 

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  reply	other threads:[~2002-10-26 10:33 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 51+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2002-10-23 13:02 One for the Security Guru's Robert L. Harris
2002-10-23 13:13 ` John Jasen
2002-10-23 13:20 ` Keith Owens
2002-10-24  7:56   ` Greg KH
2002-10-23 13:45 ` Alan Cox
2002-10-23 13:59   ` Gilad Ben-ossef
2002-10-23 22:14     ` James Cleverdon
2002-10-23 22:17       ` James Stevenson
2002-10-23 22:39         ` James Cleverdon
2002-10-23 22:44           ` James Stevenson
2002-10-24  6:12         ` Gilad Ben-Yossef
2002-11-06 21:39       ` Florian Weimer
2002-10-23 14:57 ` Richard B. Johnson
2002-10-23 17:56   ` Gerhard Mack
2002-10-24  9:38     ` Henning P. Schmiedehausen
     [not found]       ` <ap8f36$8ge$1@dstl.gov.uk>
2002-10-24 10:01         ` Tony Gale
2002-10-24 16:13           ` Gerhard Mack
2002-10-24 16:39             ` Henning P. Schmiedehausen
2002-10-24 16:34               ` David Lang
2002-10-24 17:04               ` Gilad Ben-Yossef
2002-10-25  9:44                 ` Henning Schmiedehausen
2002-10-25 20:52                   ` H. Peter Anvin
2002-10-26 10:43                     ` Henning P. Schmiedehausen
2002-10-27 10:17                       ` Rogier Wolff
2002-10-28  7:47                       ` Chris Wedgwood
2002-10-24 22:02               ` Danny Lepage
2002-10-25  9:40                 ` Henning Schmiedehausen
2002-10-24 14:23       ` Gilad Ben-ossef
2002-10-25  4:09       ` Stephen Satchell
2002-10-25 13:47         ` Stephen Frost
2002-10-26 10:38           ` Rogier Wolff [this message]
2002-10-26  9:44       ` Rogier Wolff
2002-10-26 10:46         ` Henning P. Schmiedehausen
2002-10-23 16:23 ` Henning P. Schmiedehausen
2002-10-23 17:55   ` David Lang
2002-10-23 19:46     ` H. Peter Anvin
2002-10-23 22:15 ` James Stevenson
2002-10-24  9:47   ` Henning P. Schmiedehausen
2002-10-25 12:28     ` Daniel Egger
2002-10-25 15:22       ` Alex Riesen
2002-10-25 16:38       ` Stephen Satchell
2002-10-25 18:21       ` [OT] " J Sloan
2002-10-26 10:40     ` OT " Rogier Wolff
2002-10-24 10:11   ` Ville Herva
2002-10-24 11:09     ` Henning P. Schmiedehausen
2002-10-24 11:55       ` Alan Cox
2002-10-24 14:40         ` Henning P. Schmiedehausen
2002-10-24 15:36           ` Alan Cox
2002-10-24 16:46     ` Eric W. Biederman
2002-10-24  6:04 ` David Wagner
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2002-10-23 21:49 Hank Leininger

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