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From: Oliver Xymoron <oxymoron@waste.org>
To: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@transmeta.com>
Cc: Alexander Viro <viro@math.psu.edu>,
	Olaf Dietsche <olaf.dietsche#list.linux-kernel@t-online.de>,
	"Theodore Ts'o" <tytso@mit.edu>, Dax Kelson <dax@gurulabs.com>,
	Rusty Russell <rusty@rustcorp.com.au>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, davej@suse.de
Subject: Re: Filesystem Capabilities in 2.6?
Date: Sat, 2 Nov 2002 21:50:17 -0600	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20021103035017.GD18884@waste.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.44.0211021922280.2354-100000@home.transmeta.com>

On Sat, Nov 02, 2002 at 07:23:11PM -0800, Linus Torvalds wrote:
> 
> On Sat, 2 Nov 2002, Alexander Viro wrote:
> >
> > 	<shrug> that can be done without doing anything to filesystem.
> > Namely, turn current "nosuid" of vfsmount into a mask of capabilities.
> > Then use bindings instead of links.
> 
> I like that idea. It's very explicit, and clearly name-based, and we do
> have 99% of the support for it already.

Bindings are cool, but once you start talking about doing a lot of
them, they're rather ungainly due to not actually being persisted on
the filesystem, no? 

A better approach is to just make a user-space capabilities-wrapper
that's setuid, drops capabilities quickly and safely and calls the
real app. Something like:

# mv ping ping.real
# chmod -s ping.real
# mkcapwrap +net_raw ping.real
# chmod +s ping
# showcapwrap ping
invokes /bin/ping
grants net_raw
#

No fs magic, no persistence issues, all user-space.

-- 
 "Love the dolphins," she advised him. "Write by W.A.S.T.E.." 

  parent reply	other threads:[~2002-11-03  3:44 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 124+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2002-11-01  8:49 Rusty's Remarkably Unreliable List of Pending 2.6 Features Rusty Russell
2002-11-01 16:19 ` Karim Yaghmour
2002-11-02  6:32   ` Rusty Russell
2002-11-01 18:32 ` Filesystem Capabilities in 2.6? Dax Kelson
2002-11-01 19:05   ` Nicholas Wourms
2002-11-01 22:07     ` Olaf Dietsche
2002-11-01 23:25       ` Jan Harkes
2002-11-04 17:51         ` Mark H. Wood
2002-11-01 22:07   ` Olaf Dietsche
2002-11-01 22:59   ` Rusty Russell
2002-11-02 13:41     ` Olaf Dietsche
2002-11-02  7:06   ` Theodore Ts'o
2002-11-02 13:38     ` Olaf Dietsche
2002-11-02 18:18       ` Olaf Dietsche
2002-11-02 22:57       ` Bernd Eckenfels
2002-11-02 18:35     ` Dax Kelson
2002-11-06  1:07       ` Bill Davidsen
2002-11-02 18:47     ` Linus Torvalds
2002-11-02 23:02       ` Bernd Eckenfels
2002-11-02 23:11       ` Chris Wedgwood
2002-11-03  0:18       ` Rik van Riel
2002-11-03  0:22         ` Linus Torvalds
2002-11-03  0:43           ` Alexander Viro
2002-11-03  0:52             ` Alexander Viro
2002-11-04 13:02             ` Pavel Machek
2002-11-03  0:47           ` Rik van Riel
2002-11-03  1:53             ` Linus Torvalds
2002-11-03  1:05           ` David D. Hagood
2002-11-03  2:05             ` Linus Torvalds
2002-11-03 13:55               ` Olaf Dietsche
2002-11-05  8:47               ` Rogier Wolff
2002-11-05 10:50                 ` Bernd Eckenfels
2002-11-03  1:27           ` Alan Cox
2002-11-03  2:43             ` Werner Almesberger
2002-11-03 12:46               ` Alan Cox
2002-11-03  0:56       ` Olaf Dietsche
2002-11-03  2:03         ` Linus Torvalds
2002-11-03  2:21           ` Alexander Viro
2002-11-03  3:23             ` Linus Torvalds
2002-11-03  3:35               ` Linus Torvalds
2002-11-03  4:28                 ` Alexander Viro
2002-11-03 13:03                   ` Alan Cox
2002-11-03 14:51                     ` Alexander Viro
2002-11-03 16:50                       ` Alan Cox
2002-11-03 16:56                         ` Alexander Viro
2002-11-03 16:56                           ` yodaiken
2002-11-03 18:13                             ` Linus Torvalds
2002-11-03 18:25                               ` yodaiken
2002-11-03 18:42                                 ` Linus Torvalds
2002-11-04  0:40                               ` Rik van Riel
2002-11-03  7:36                 ` Hacksaw
2002-11-03  8:59                   ` Kai Henningsen
2002-11-03 10:50                     ` Hacksaw
2002-11-04  8:55                       ` Rando Christensen
2002-11-03 12:57                 ` Alan Cox
2002-11-03 15:20                   ` Bernd Eckenfels
2002-11-03 16:30                     ` Ragnar Kjørstad
2002-11-03 16:40                       ` Bernd Eckenfels
2002-11-03 17:10                       ` Alan Cox
2002-11-09 20:11                     ` Pavel Machek
2002-11-10 22:50                       ` Bernd Eckenfels
2002-11-03 13:55                 ` Olaf Dietsche
2002-11-03  3:50               ` Oliver Xymoron [this message]
2002-11-03  4:00                 ` Dax Kelson
2002-11-03  4:10                   ` Oliver Xymoron
2002-11-03 13:55                     ` Olaf Dietsche
2002-11-03  4:20                 ` Linus Torvalds
2002-11-03  4:37                   ` Alexander Viro
2002-11-03  4:54                     ` Linus Torvalds
2002-11-03  5:09                       ` Alexander Viro
2002-11-03  5:39                         ` Linus Torvalds
2002-11-03  6:37                           ` Alexander Viro
2002-11-03  7:16                             ` Dax Kelson
2002-11-03  9:18                               ` Alexander Viro
2002-11-03 20:35                               ` Michal Jaegermann
2002-11-04  9:25                               ` Antti Salmela
2002-11-04 12:24                                 ` Olaf Dietsche
2002-11-04 14:39                             ` Theodore Ts'o
2002-11-04 15:13                       ` Jesse Pollard
2002-11-03  5:03                   ` Oliver Xymoron
2002-11-03  5:25                     ` Dax Kelson
2002-11-03  5:52                     ` Linus Torvalds
2002-11-03  6:46                       ` Alexander Viro
2002-11-03 12:53                         ` Alan Cox
2002-11-03 13:52                       ` Olaf Dietsche
2002-11-03 14:38                         ` Alexander Viro
2002-11-03 16:01                           ` Olaf Dietsche
2002-11-03 16:09                             ` Alexander Viro
2002-11-03 12:51                   ` Alan Cox
2002-11-03 21:02                     ` Ryan Anderson
2002-11-03  3:36             ` [REPORT] current use of capabilities Dax Kelson
2002-11-03 13:57               ` Olaf Dietsche
2002-11-05 12:14               ` Andreas Gruenbacher
2002-11-03  4:04             ` Filesystem Capabilities in 2.6? Dax Kelson
2002-11-03  4:10               ` Alexander Viro
2002-11-03  5:31               ` Erik Andersen
2002-11-03  5:37                 ` Dax Kelson
2002-11-03  5:42                   ` Erik Andersen
2002-11-03  6:07                     ` Dax Kelson
2002-11-03 22:24                       ` Anders Gustafsson
2002-11-03 15:13             ` Bernd Eckenfels
2002-11-03 12:45           ` Alan Cox
2002-11-03 15:49             ` Patrick Finnegan
2002-11-04 15:00               ` Patrick Finnegan
2002-11-04 15:51                 ` Olaf Dietsche
2002-11-04 16:53                   ` Patrick Finnegan
2002-11-04 17:23                     ` Olaf Dietsche
2002-11-03 13:30           ` Olaf Dietsche
2002-11-03 15:11           ` Bernd Eckenfels
2002-11-04  2:49           ` Jan Harkes
2002-11-04 14:50             ` Theodore Ts'o
2002-11-04 15:33               ` Alan Cox
2002-11-04 20:35                 ` Ulrich Drepper
2002-11-04 21:50                   ` Linus Torvalds
2002-11-04 14:58       ` Jesse Pollard
2002-11-05 23:47       ` Bill Davidsen
2002-11-06 13:36         ` Jesse Pollard
2002-11-05  4:14   ` Andreas Gruenbacher
2002-11-05 14:48     ` Olaf Dietsche
2002-11-05 15:05       ` Andreas Gruenbacher
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2002-11-03  0:31 Albert D. Cahalan
2002-11-03  3:15 ` john slee
2002-11-06  0:00 ` Bill Davidsen
2002-11-05  0:11 Tom Reinhart

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