From: Rogier Wolff <R.E.Wolff@BitWizard.nl>
To: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@transmeta.com>
Cc: "David D. Hagood" <wowbagger@sktc.net>,
Rik van Riel <riel@conectiva.com.br>,
"Theodore Ts'o" <tytso@mit.edu>, Dax Kelson <dax@gurulabs.com>,
Rusty Russell <rusty@rustcorp.com.au>,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, davej@suse.de
Subject: Re: Filesystem Capabilities in 2.6?
Date: Tue, 5 Nov 2002 09:47:42 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20021105094741.A32344@bitwizard.nl> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.44.0211021803240.2300-100000@home.transmeta.com>
On Sat, Nov 02, 2002 at 06:05:09PM -0800, Linus Torvalds wrote:
>
> On Sat, 2 Nov 2002, David D. Hagood wrote:
> > Linus Torvalds wrote:
> > >
> > > And pathnames are a _hell_ of a lot better and straightforward interface
> > > than inode numbers are. It's confusing when you change the permission on
> > > one path to notice that another path magically changed too.
> >
> > Would this not allow a user to add permissions to a file, by creating a
> > new directory entry and linking it to an existing inode?
> >
> > Would that not be a greater security hole?
>
> No. The file itself has _no_ capabilities at all. If you just link to it,
> you can give it whatever capabilities _you_ have as a user (well, normal
> users don't really have any capabilities to give, but you get the idea).
Capabilties done right, means that normal users DO have capabilities.
Normal users have the capability to call normal syscalls like "read",
"write" and "execve".
And once you have these included in the capabilities (which normal users
and programs normally have by default), you can take them away if you
want. For example, a non-scripting webserver may not require any use of
the "execve" system call.
Oh, it's easy to get a "vector" of over 100 capabilities this way. This
might be inefficient. Thus, it would be required that we get two levels:
first level as you're thinking of it: split capabilities for what
"root" now has, and the other also splitting the "normal user"'s
capabilities (and splitting the root-kinds even further).
Roger.
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~2002-11-05 8:42 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 124+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2002-11-01 8:49 Rusty's Remarkably Unreliable List of Pending 2.6 Features Rusty Russell
2002-11-01 16:19 ` Karim Yaghmour
2002-11-02 6:32 ` Rusty Russell
2002-11-01 18:32 ` Filesystem Capabilities in 2.6? Dax Kelson
2002-11-01 19:05 ` Nicholas Wourms
2002-11-01 22:07 ` Olaf Dietsche
2002-11-01 23:25 ` Jan Harkes
2002-11-04 17:51 ` Mark H. Wood
2002-11-01 22:07 ` Olaf Dietsche
2002-11-01 22:59 ` Rusty Russell
2002-11-02 13:41 ` Olaf Dietsche
2002-11-02 7:06 ` Theodore Ts'o
2002-11-02 13:38 ` Olaf Dietsche
2002-11-02 18:18 ` Olaf Dietsche
2002-11-02 22:57 ` Bernd Eckenfels
2002-11-02 18:35 ` Dax Kelson
2002-11-06 1:07 ` Bill Davidsen
2002-11-02 18:47 ` Linus Torvalds
2002-11-02 23:02 ` Bernd Eckenfels
2002-11-02 23:11 ` Chris Wedgwood
2002-11-03 0:18 ` Rik van Riel
2002-11-03 0:22 ` Linus Torvalds
2002-11-03 0:43 ` Alexander Viro
2002-11-03 0:52 ` Alexander Viro
2002-11-04 13:02 ` Pavel Machek
2002-11-03 0:47 ` Rik van Riel
2002-11-03 1:53 ` Linus Torvalds
2002-11-03 1:05 ` David D. Hagood
2002-11-03 2:05 ` Linus Torvalds
2002-11-03 13:55 ` Olaf Dietsche
2002-11-05 8:47 ` Rogier Wolff [this message]
2002-11-05 10:50 ` Bernd Eckenfels
2002-11-03 1:27 ` Alan Cox
2002-11-03 2:43 ` Werner Almesberger
2002-11-03 12:46 ` Alan Cox
2002-11-03 0:56 ` Olaf Dietsche
2002-11-03 2:03 ` Linus Torvalds
2002-11-03 2:21 ` Alexander Viro
2002-11-03 3:23 ` Linus Torvalds
2002-11-03 3:35 ` Linus Torvalds
2002-11-03 4:28 ` Alexander Viro
2002-11-03 13:03 ` Alan Cox
2002-11-03 14:51 ` Alexander Viro
2002-11-03 16:50 ` Alan Cox
2002-11-03 16:56 ` Alexander Viro
2002-11-03 16:56 ` yodaiken
2002-11-03 18:13 ` Linus Torvalds
2002-11-03 18:25 ` yodaiken
2002-11-03 18:42 ` Linus Torvalds
2002-11-04 0:40 ` Rik van Riel
2002-11-03 7:36 ` Hacksaw
2002-11-03 8:59 ` Kai Henningsen
2002-11-03 10:50 ` Hacksaw
2002-11-04 8:55 ` Rando Christensen
2002-11-03 12:57 ` Alan Cox
2002-11-03 15:20 ` Bernd Eckenfels
2002-11-03 16:30 ` Ragnar Kjørstad
2002-11-03 16:40 ` Bernd Eckenfels
2002-11-03 17:10 ` Alan Cox
2002-11-09 20:11 ` Pavel Machek
2002-11-10 22:50 ` Bernd Eckenfels
2002-11-03 13:55 ` Olaf Dietsche
2002-11-03 3:50 ` Oliver Xymoron
2002-11-03 4:00 ` Dax Kelson
2002-11-03 4:10 ` Oliver Xymoron
2002-11-03 13:55 ` Olaf Dietsche
2002-11-03 4:20 ` Linus Torvalds
2002-11-03 4:37 ` Alexander Viro
2002-11-03 4:54 ` Linus Torvalds
2002-11-03 5:09 ` Alexander Viro
2002-11-03 5:39 ` Linus Torvalds
2002-11-03 6:37 ` Alexander Viro
2002-11-03 7:16 ` Dax Kelson
2002-11-03 9:18 ` Alexander Viro
2002-11-03 20:35 ` Michal Jaegermann
2002-11-04 9:25 ` Antti Salmela
2002-11-04 12:24 ` Olaf Dietsche
2002-11-04 14:39 ` Theodore Ts'o
2002-11-04 15:13 ` Jesse Pollard
2002-11-03 5:03 ` Oliver Xymoron
2002-11-03 5:25 ` Dax Kelson
2002-11-03 5:52 ` Linus Torvalds
2002-11-03 6:46 ` Alexander Viro
2002-11-03 12:53 ` Alan Cox
2002-11-03 13:52 ` Olaf Dietsche
2002-11-03 14:38 ` Alexander Viro
2002-11-03 16:01 ` Olaf Dietsche
2002-11-03 16:09 ` Alexander Viro
2002-11-03 12:51 ` Alan Cox
2002-11-03 21:02 ` Ryan Anderson
2002-11-03 3:36 ` [REPORT] current use of capabilities Dax Kelson
2002-11-03 13:57 ` Olaf Dietsche
2002-11-05 12:14 ` Andreas Gruenbacher
2002-11-03 4:04 ` Filesystem Capabilities in 2.6? Dax Kelson
2002-11-03 4:10 ` Alexander Viro
2002-11-03 5:31 ` Erik Andersen
2002-11-03 5:37 ` Dax Kelson
2002-11-03 5:42 ` Erik Andersen
2002-11-03 6:07 ` Dax Kelson
2002-11-03 22:24 ` Anders Gustafsson
2002-11-03 15:13 ` Bernd Eckenfels
2002-11-03 12:45 ` Alan Cox
2002-11-03 15:49 ` Patrick Finnegan
2002-11-04 15:00 ` Patrick Finnegan
2002-11-04 15:51 ` Olaf Dietsche
2002-11-04 16:53 ` Patrick Finnegan
2002-11-04 17:23 ` Olaf Dietsche
2002-11-03 13:30 ` Olaf Dietsche
2002-11-03 15:11 ` Bernd Eckenfels
2002-11-04 2:49 ` Jan Harkes
2002-11-04 14:50 ` Theodore Ts'o
2002-11-04 15:33 ` Alan Cox
2002-11-04 20:35 ` Ulrich Drepper
2002-11-04 21:50 ` Linus Torvalds
2002-11-04 14:58 ` Jesse Pollard
2002-11-05 23:47 ` Bill Davidsen
2002-11-06 13:36 ` Jesse Pollard
2002-11-05 4:14 ` Andreas Gruenbacher
2002-11-05 14:48 ` Olaf Dietsche
2002-11-05 15:05 ` Andreas Gruenbacher
-- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2002-11-03 0:31 Albert D. Cahalan
2002-11-03 3:15 ` john slee
2002-11-06 0:00 ` Bill Davidsen
2002-11-05 0:11 Tom Reinhart
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