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From: William Lee Irwin III <wli@holomorphy.com>
To: Andrew Morton <akpm@digeo.com>
Cc: Andrea Arcangeli <andrea@suse.de>,
	Rik van Riel <riel@conectiva.com.br>,
	Con Kolivas <conman@kolivas.net>,
	linux kernel mailing list <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	marcelo@conectiva.com.br
Subject: Re: [BENCHMARK] 2.4.{18,19{-ck9},20rc1{-aa1}} with contest
Date: Sun, 10 Nov 2002 23:58:49 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20021111075849.GM23425@holomorphy.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <3DCF3BD1.4A95617D@digeo.com>

Andrea Arcangeli wrote:
> 2.5 (and read-latency) sort-of solve these problems by creating a
> massive seekstorm when there are competing reads and writes.  It's
> a pretty sad solution really.

On Sun, Nov 10, 2002 at 09:10:41PM -0800, Andrew Morton wrote:
> Better would be to perform those reads and writes in nice big batches.
> That's easy for the writes, but for reads we need to wait for the
> application to submit another one.  That means actually deliberately
> leaving the disk head idle for a few milliseconds in the anticipation
> that the application will submit another nearby read.  This is called
> "anticipatory scheduling" and has been shown to provide 20%-70%
> performance boost in web serving workloads.   It just makes heaps of
> sense to me and I'd love to see it in Linux...
> See http://www.cs.ucsd.edu/sosp01/papers/iyer.pdf

This smacks of "deceptive idleness". OTOH I prefer to keep out of those
issues and focus on pure fault handling, TLB, and space consumption
issues. I/O scheduling is far afield for me, and I prefer to keep it so.


Bill

  parent reply	other threads:[~2002-11-11  7:54 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 47+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2002-11-09  2:00 [BENCHMARK] 2.4.{18,19{-ck9},20rc1{-aa1}} with contest Con Kolivas
2002-11-09  2:36 ` Andrew Morton
2002-11-09  3:26   ` Con Kolivas
2002-11-09  4:15     ` Andrew Morton
2002-11-09  5:12       ` Con Kolivas
2002-11-09 11:21         ` Jens Axboe
2002-11-09 13:09           ` Con Kolivas
2002-11-09 13:35             ` Stephen Lord
2002-11-09 13:54             ` Jens Axboe
2002-11-09 21:12               ` Arador
2002-11-10  2:26                 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2002-11-09 21:53               ` Con Kolivas
2002-11-10 10:09                 ` Jens Axboe
2002-11-10 16:23                   ` Andrea Arcangeli
2002-11-11  4:26                   ` Con Kolivas
2002-11-10 10:12               ` Kjartan Maraas
2002-11-10 10:17                 ` Jens Axboe
2002-11-10 16:27                 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2002-11-09 11:20       ` Jens Axboe
2002-11-10  2:44 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2002-11-10  3:56   ` Matt Reppert
2002-11-10  9:58   ` Con Kolivas
2002-11-10 10:06     ` Jens Axboe
2002-11-10 16:21       ` Andrea Arcangeli
2002-11-10 16:20     ` Andrea Arcangeli
2002-11-10 19:32   ` Rik van Riel
2002-11-10 20:10     ` Andrea Arcangeli
2002-11-10 20:52       ` Andrew Morton
2002-11-10 21:05         ` Rik van Riel
2002-11-11  1:54           ` Andrea Arcangeli
2002-11-11  4:03             ` Andrew Morton
2002-11-11  4:06               ` Andrea Arcangeli
2002-11-11  4:22                 ` Andrew Morton
2002-11-11  4:39                   ` Andrea Arcangeli
2002-11-11  5:10                     ` Andrew Morton
2002-11-11  5:23                       ` Andrea Arcangeli
2002-11-11  7:58                       ` William Lee Irwin III [this message]
2002-11-11 13:56                       ` Rik van Riel
2002-11-11 13:45             ` Rik van Riel
2002-11-11 14:09               ` Jens Axboe
2002-11-11 15:48                 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2002-11-11 15:43               ` Andrea Arcangeli
2002-11-10 20:56       ` Andrew Morton
2002-11-11  1:08         ` Andrea Arcangeli
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2002-11-09  3:44 Dieter Nützel
2002-11-09  3:54 ` Con Kolivas
2002-11-09  4:02   ` Dieter Nützel

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