From: Larry McVoy <lm@bitmover.com>
To: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@transmeta.com>
Cc: Alan Cox <alan@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk>,
Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: lan based kgdb
Date: Sat, 16 Nov 2002 19:30:08 -0800 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20021116193008.C25741@work.bitmover.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.44.0211161915360.1337-100000@home.transmeta.com>; from torvalds@transmeta.com on Sat, Nov 16, 2002 at 07:19:10PM -0800
On Sat, Nov 16, 2002 at 07:19:10PM -0800, Linus Torvalds wrote:
> On 16 Nov 2002, Alan Cox wrote:
> > And in the real world you end up back with TCP. Been there, done that
> > with network debugger tools before.
>
> .. and we have another "been there, done that" that says UDP works fine.
>
> I also dislike overdesign with a passion. I'll believe we have to go to
> TCP when I see it - and even if that happens, I think we should do the UDP
> case first just to avoid having a monster ("start off simple, and evolve"
> as opposed to "try to get it right the first time").
I've done this sort of "reliable UDP" on local networks before, it works
just fine, no TCP is needed. TCP is a really well designed protocol, it
handles an amazing range of problems gracefully. It's overkill for a
lan remote gdb.
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Larry McVoy lm at bitmover.com http://www.bitmover.com/lm
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2002-11-17 3:23 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 46+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2002-11-15 20:29 lan based kgdb Kallol Biswas
2002-11-15 20:38 ` William Lee Irwin III
2002-11-15 22:06 ` Martin J. Bligh
2002-11-15 21:26 ` Linus Torvalds
2002-11-15 21:46 ` Andrew Morton
2002-11-15 22:05 ` Kallol Biswas
2002-11-15 22:24 ` Stelian Pop
2002-11-15 22:47 ` Dmitri
2002-11-15 22:53 ` Stelian Pop
2002-11-17 5:45 ` M. R. Brown
2002-11-15 22:51 ` Andrew Morton
2002-11-15 22:59 ` Stelian Pop
2002-11-16 16:23 ` yodaiken
2002-11-16 17:21 ` Stelian Pop
2002-11-16 21:32 ` Nicholas Miell
2002-11-16 2:35 ` Alan Cox
2002-11-16 18:18 ` Oliver Xymoron
2002-11-16 4:19 ` Linus Torvalds
2002-11-16 7:24 ` David Mosberger-Tang
2002-11-16 17:58 ` Daniel Jacobowitz
2002-11-16 23:56 ` Alan Cox
2002-11-16 18:24 ` Oliver Xymoron
2002-11-16 18:33 ` Linus Torvalds
2002-11-16 19:04 ` Oliver Xymoron
2002-11-17 9:56 ` Jan-Benedict Glaw
2002-11-17 14:50 ` Alan Cox
2002-11-18 7:27 ` Jan-Benedict Glaw
2002-11-19 8:49 ` Amit S. Kale
2002-11-16 20:42 ` Werner Almesberger
2002-11-16 23:54 ` Alan Cox
2002-11-17 3:19 ` Linus Torvalds
2002-11-17 3:30 ` Larry McVoy [this message]
2002-11-17 19:42 ` Eric W. Biederman
2002-11-17 20:10 ` Jamie Lokier
2002-11-17 20:31 ` Eric W. Biederman
2002-11-17 20:25 ` Brad Hards
2002-11-17 21:30 ` Eric W. Biederman
2002-11-17 21:32 ` David Lang
2002-11-17 21:48 ` Brad Hards
2002-11-17 22:00 ` David Lang
2002-11-17 23:48 ` Eric W. Biederman
2002-11-17 21:42 ` Brad Hards
2002-11-18 1:10 ` Werner Almesberger
2002-11-18 7:20 ` Miles Bader
-- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2002-11-15 21:44 Edwin Bland
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2002-11-17 23:52 ` Andi Kleen
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