From: Werner Almesberger <wa@almesberger.net>
To: "Eric W. Biederman" <ebiederm@xmission.com>
Cc: Larry McVoy <lm@bitmover.com>,
Alan Cox <alan@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk>,
Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: lan based kgdb
Date: Sun, 17 Nov 2002 22:10:45 -0300 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20021117221045.L1407@almesberger.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <m11y5k3ruw.fsf@frodo.biederman.org>; from ebiederm@xmission.com on Sun, Nov 17, 2002 at 12:42:47PM -0700
Eric W. Biederman wrote:
> Otherwise the concept gives me security nightmares.
Bah, there are a few Fundamental Truths of Networking Simplification
that we can absolutely rely on:
- it is perfectly safe to require that a given port be connected only
to a secure and trusted network
- if you design a protocol not to work over a WAN, everybody will
respect this, and deploy it only on LANs
- if any of the above constraints is no longer tenable, people will
carefully redesign the protocol in question, and replace the
installed base
- all LANs have simple, well-understood characteristics - now and
forever
After all, SNMP, FSP, LANE, NAT, WEP, etc. can't be wrong (-:C
And yes, I can vividly imagine users of dedicated hosts rush to switch
on that remote console the very moment it becomes available, and use
it across half of the planet.
- Werner
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Thread overview: 46+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2002-11-15 20:29 lan based kgdb Kallol Biswas
2002-11-15 20:38 ` William Lee Irwin III
2002-11-15 22:06 ` Martin J. Bligh
2002-11-15 21:26 ` Linus Torvalds
2002-11-15 21:46 ` Andrew Morton
2002-11-15 22:05 ` Kallol Biswas
2002-11-15 22:24 ` Stelian Pop
2002-11-15 22:47 ` Dmitri
2002-11-15 22:53 ` Stelian Pop
2002-11-17 5:45 ` M. R. Brown
2002-11-15 22:51 ` Andrew Morton
2002-11-15 22:59 ` Stelian Pop
2002-11-16 16:23 ` yodaiken
2002-11-16 17:21 ` Stelian Pop
2002-11-16 21:32 ` Nicholas Miell
2002-11-16 2:35 ` Alan Cox
2002-11-16 18:18 ` Oliver Xymoron
2002-11-16 4:19 ` Linus Torvalds
2002-11-16 7:24 ` David Mosberger-Tang
2002-11-16 17:58 ` Daniel Jacobowitz
2002-11-16 23:56 ` Alan Cox
2002-11-16 18:24 ` Oliver Xymoron
2002-11-16 18:33 ` Linus Torvalds
2002-11-16 19:04 ` Oliver Xymoron
2002-11-17 9:56 ` Jan-Benedict Glaw
2002-11-17 14:50 ` Alan Cox
2002-11-18 7:27 ` Jan-Benedict Glaw
2002-11-19 8:49 ` Amit S. Kale
2002-11-16 20:42 ` Werner Almesberger
2002-11-16 23:54 ` Alan Cox
2002-11-17 3:19 ` Linus Torvalds
2002-11-17 3:30 ` Larry McVoy
2002-11-17 19:42 ` Eric W. Biederman
2002-11-17 20:10 ` Jamie Lokier
2002-11-17 20:31 ` Eric W. Biederman
2002-11-17 20:25 ` Brad Hards
2002-11-17 21:30 ` Eric W. Biederman
2002-11-17 21:32 ` David Lang
2002-11-17 21:48 ` Brad Hards
2002-11-17 22:00 ` David Lang
2002-11-17 23:48 ` Eric W. Biederman
2002-11-17 21:42 ` Brad Hards
2002-11-18 1:10 ` Werner Almesberger [this message]
2002-11-18 7:20 ` Miles Bader
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2002-11-15 21:44 Edwin Bland
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2002-11-17 23:52 ` Andi Kleen
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