From: Dave Jones <davej@codemonkey.org.uk>
To: Denis Vlasenko <vda@port.imtp.ilyichevsk.odessa.ua>
Cc: Margit Schubert-While <margitsw@t-online.de>,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: P4 compile options
Date: Fri, 22 Nov 2002 10:54:38 +0000 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20021122105438.GA16662@suse.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <200211221013.gAMADpp31088@Port.imtp.ilyichevsk.odessa.ua>
On Fri, Nov 22, 2002 at 01:04:39PM -0200, Denis Vlasenko wrote:
> I consider 16-byte code alignment as way too big.
> P4 zealots can demand even more I guess :(
> I will happily change my mind when/if I'll see
> favorable speed/kernel size benchmarks. Until then,
I think there's a misunderstanding here.
The march=pentium4 option is only used when you select
"build me a pentium 4 kernel" You do realise that right?
Generic kernels don't change 1 bit.
> I think 4-byte alignment is closest to sanity.
You know where to find the Intel P4 optimisation manuals..
> Not exactly P4 related but: if you tell gcc your
> processor has cmov, gcc will try to use it.
So what ? Show me a P4 without cmov.
> Results:
> * gcc code is worse with cmov than without
> * some CPUs (Cyrix?) have slow cmovs (microcoded?)
> * you lose whenever you try to use your code
> on cmov-less CPU.
<------------ The point.
--------------> You.
Cmov is completely irrelevant here.
Sure its still an optional instruction which
should be tested for before use, but until Intel
make a P4 without CMOV, adding march=pentium4
is harmless.
> Dave, I am absolutely sure _you_ do not compile
> for P4 needlessly, but lots of ordinary people
> do that just to be hip.
Those are probably the same folks who run Gentoo/Slackware/ or
some-other-compile-everything-myself-because-I've-too-much-time-on-my-hands-distro.
Fine, let them be happy.
If some loon wants a P4 optimised /bin/ls, that's his problem,
but optimisation of key components (like say, the kernel) _is_
important.
> I wanted to point out why it may be undesirable.
All you've pointed out is that a P4 kernel won't run
optimally on a 486. Well surprise, it won't run at all.
Dave
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| Dave Jones. http://www.codemonkey.org.uk
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2002-11-22 10:52 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 8+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2002-11-21 20:18 P4 compile options Margit Schubert-While
2002-11-21 20:40 ` Dave Jones
2002-11-22 13:22 ` Denis Vlasenko
2002-11-22 9:26 ` Dave Jones
2002-11-22 15:04 ` Denis Vlasenko
2002-11-22 10:54 ` Dave Jones [this message]
2002-11-24 16:52 ` Denis Vlasenko
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2002-11-22 12:12 Margit Schubert-While
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