From: "David S. Miller" <davem@redhat.com>
To: ak@suse.de
Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH] Start of compat32.h (again)
Date: Mon, 02 Dec 2002 02:16:29 -0800 (PST) [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20021202.021629.93360250.davem@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20021202090756.GA26034@wotan.suse.de>
From: Andi Kleen <ak@suse.de>
Date: Mon, 2 Dec 2002 10:07:56 +0100
> BTW, I bet your dynamic relocation tables are a bit larger too.
Somewhat, but does it matter? They are not kept in memory anyways.
It's all about how much data a ld.so relocation has to touch. But
preloading will help out here, even though that isn't in wide spread
use just yet.
And I was talking about user stack usage, not the kernel kind
:-)
Andi, do something very simple like run -m32 vs -m64 microbenchmarks,
I bet -m32 beats -m64 in all the lmbench lat_proc tests. On sparc64
it's (on a 2-way SMP system):
-m32 fork+exit: 360.8328 microseconds
-m32 fork+execve: 1342.2213 microseconds
-m32 fork+/bin/sh: 5497.0149 microseconds
-m64 fork+exit: 553.9076 microseconds
-m64 fork+execve: 1904.6315 microseconds
-m64 fork+/bin/sh: 6268.6932 microseconds
NOTE: make sure you change /bin/sh to be 32-bit/64-bit as
appropriate in the tests above.
So what is this on x86_64? :-) I think lat_proc is great becuase it
shows pure libc overhead in continually relocating the exit()
etc. symbols in the child for fork+exit, for example.
The reason I'm making such a stink about this is that I don't want
people believing that "the code generation improvements due to the
extra x86_64 registers available nullifies the bloat cost from
going to 64-bit"
To me, believe that is an utterly bogus claim and completely
misleading.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2002-12-02 10:11 UTC|newest]
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2002-12-02 8:13 ` [PATCH] Start of compat32.h (again) Andi Kleen
2002-12-02 8:28 ` David S. Miller
2002-12-02 9:07 ` Andi Kleen
2002-12-02 9:36 ` Jakub Jelinek
2002-12-02 17:01 ` Mikael Pettersson
2002-12-02 10:16 ` David S. Miller [this message]
2002-12-04 11:19 ` Pavel Machek
2002-12-05 21:06 ` David S. Miller
2002-12-05 21:21 ` Pavel Machek
2002-12-05 21:22 ` David S. Miller
2002-12-05 21:32 ` Pavel Machek
2002-11-27 7:42 Stephen Rothwell
2002-11-27 7:58 ` David S. Miller
2002-11-27 13:00 ` Stephen Rothwell
2002-11-28 5:27 ` David S. Miller
2002-11-27 18:51 ` Linus Torvalds
2002-11-28 5:34 ` David S. Miller
2002-11-27 8:00 ` David Mosberger
2002-11-27 8:06 ` David S. Miller
2002-11-27 8:29 ` Andi Kleen
2002-11-27 8:46 ` David Mosberger
2002-11-27 9:01 ` Andi Kleen
2002-11-27 9:57 ` David S. Miller
2002-11-27 17:10 ` David Mosberger
2002-11-28 5:29 ` David S. Miller
2002-11-27 12:49 ` Alan Cox
2002-11-30 20:34 ` Ralf Baechle
2002-11-27 17:18 ` Linus Torvalds
2002-11-28 5:22 ` Stephen Rothwell
2002-11-28 5:26 ` David S. Miller
2002-11-29 2:36 ` Stephen Rothwell
2002-12-01 18:54 ` Linus Torvalds
2002-12-02 4:46 ` David S. Miller
2002-12-02 4:57 ` Stephen Rothwell
2002-12-02 6:17 ` David S. Miller
2002-12-02 7:39 ` Richard Henderson
2002-12-02 7:44 ` David S. Miller
2002-12-02 7:59 ` Ralf Baechle
2002-12-02 8:01 ` David S. Miller
2002-12-04 11:22 ` Pavel Machek
2002-12-05 21:04 ` David S. Miller
2002-11-28 5:31 ` David S. Miller
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