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From: John Bradford <john@grabjohn.com>
To: list@fluent2.pyramid.net (Stephen Satchell)
Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: Want a random entropy source?
Date: Sat, 28 Dec 2002 16:00:25 +0000 (GMT)	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <200212281600.gBSG0P4r001160@darkstar.example.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <5.2.0.9.0.20021228073445.01d386c0@fluent2.pyramid.net> from "Stephen Satchell" at Dec 28, 2002 07:40:29 AM

> I was astonished to see that the resulting signal is a white-noise
> pattern with a slight emphasis at the high end (when sampled at 44
> kilosamples per second). In short, it looks like diode noise with a
> 4 kilohertz square wave thrown in.

> "That suggests to me that this would make a fair source of random samples, 
> especially after you slot out the interfering signal.

How can you guarantee that you are sampling noise, though, what if a
sound card was picking up 50 Hz mains hum, for example,  that would
de-randomise the data quite a bit.

> "How many computers don't have cheap sound cards and CD-ROM drives?"

I have never understood how a 16-bit DAC or ADC can have noise above
96 dB.  Surely _by definition_ a 16-bit DAC or ADC is one that does
not have noise above that level.

John.

  reply	other threads:[~2002-12-28 15:52 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 14+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2002-12-27 16:16 two 2.5 modules bugs Mikael Pettersson
2002-12-27 23:24 ` Petr Vandrovec
2002-12-28 10:37 ` Rusty Russell
2002-12-28 15:40   ` Want a random entropy source? Stephen Satchell
2002-12-28 16:00     ` John Bradford [this message]
2002-12-28 16:38       ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2002-12-28 16:47       ` Russell King
2002-12-28 17:15         ` John Bradford
2002-12-28 20:28       ` Folkert van Heusden
2002-12-28 20:39         ` John Bradford
2002-12-28 20:53           ` Folkert van Heusden
2002-12-28 23:20         ` Stephen Satchell
2002-12-28 23:41           ` John Bradford
2002-12-28 20:27     ` Folkert van Heusden

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